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okay... here we have a problem, normally only races from "impossibly alien" futures are allowed. The apes from the newest planet of the apes franchise are from a barely-future type future... but the problem is that in several continuities the apes in the planet of the apes franchise ARE alien... including the original book, and the previous reboot attempt (sorta, it is an alien planet detailed in several books and comics, but apes are earth descended apes), and the older video game. ralok (talk) 19:54, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

No problem here, really, this page is about the intelligent Earth apes (which exist in all versions of the story, even though in the original they're just a surprise ending and not the focus), now we need to create another page for the Soror species, both ape and human (and yes, technically, humans are apes, but let's skip the semantics) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 19:07, August 12, 2014 (UTC)
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