I think in those cases we should have a page just for the species, not the character. Tosk, for instance, is an example. We know there's an entire race of Tosk out there, even though we only see one of them, it's a known species. So, I don't think we need a page for the Tosk character as well. That would be redundant.
It's different from a character that you simply don't know the species of, like, say, Bazin or Crystal or Fang. There are probably others like them, but we have no idea what they are.
It's not only that the species is unnamed, but that creating a page for "Fang's species" would be problematic because we cannot be sure that there even is a "Fang's species". He could be a unique being, for all that we know. That's why, in my opinion, if the character belongs to an unknown race, and is the only one ever seen, the page should be about the character.
But if there is a known species, then it should be about the species, regardless of how many of them we have seen.
On a side note the pages Fire Rhino and Fire Unicorn are the species of two characters. In the actual game their species are listed as Rhino and Unicorn. I feel that these species name are just too generic to be the actual names of the species and that the pages should be about the character. What do you think?
There are also a lot of characters like this in the game series
sorry to bother you, but why'd you delete the Land Whale page for Satisfactory? I know it's indeed an alien from the game, but I don't understand that "copyright violation" thing. did it not follow guidelines or something?
In a way, yes. Sadly, that page was a violation of our rules, that's why I had to delete it.
The page had the same text as this one on the Satisfactory Wiki. Copying text from other websites is usually copyright violation, and in any case, it's not allowed here.
If you're not familiar with the rules and policies, you can take a look at them on the Main Page, but if you have any questions about them, feel free to contact me or the other admins. It certainly doesn't bother us to answer questions. We're here to help.
Was wondering. So you mentioned that "Human affiliations" was going to be deleted. Are you also going to delete the "Locations" category, the "Technology" category, and so on? Or are you going to leave them in the wiki but simply prevent anyone from adding new items to those categories again? If you decide to delete them, are you going to give the creators time to save their work and perhaps move it to another wiki (assuming the admin at the other wiki permits imports).
If the proposals are accepted, the locations and technology pages will be deleted. The only exceptions, of course, are Living Worlds and living, self-aware forms of technology (the existence of which means that the categories that you mention will probably be kept around just for these).
About the time it will take: if the proposals are accepted, the whole cleaning-up will be gradual. There'll be literally hundreds of pages to be deleted, and at least a few months will be required for us to do that. So there will be plenty of time to save your stuff and move it to another wiki if you wish to do that.
In my case, for instance: if we opt to delete the locations, there are a few pages that I created (such as the Land of the Lost page and planet Darwin IV) which I do plan to move to another wiki after deleting.
Beren itching to add some more aliens to this, but I was wondering if short films count, or does it HAVE to be an actual movie or TV show. I'm hoping it does count, but I might as well ask before I can add it in
Pułkownik Jack O'Neil is right. Films which have been made by actual filmmakers, as well as produced or distributed by professional studios are allowed, and R'ha seems to be a case of this, according to IMDb.
In my opinion, I'd rather we had pages for Bakugan, Metahumans and Inhumans in general, rather than each individual.
As for generic background aliens, I think in cases like these, you could do something similar to what I did when I made the page Species from the Sun-Singers of Akhet: they're all on the same page because they were featured in the same location and there's nothing else that we know about them. Undertown Residents from Ben 10 could be dealt with in the same way, in my opinion.
Man, I have to say, I'm confused too, about the characters. I see you've been working on expanding the Character Gallery, but you're the one who brought up the fact that we should restrict the types of characters allowed. You suggested the new criteria. Now that they've been approved and the new rules have been set, aren't we supposed to be deleting the characters that don't fulfill these criteria?
And Dannyman has been adding the Omnitrix aliens to the gallery, but most of them are also representatives of a species and should be deleted, according to the new rules. And individual Autobots and Decepticons should be deleted too, isn't that so? I'm asking because I want to be sure.
The Irkens are there because, with the old policy, we used to allow every kind of character. But now that we have this new policy, they will be removed. Mostly, we haven't had time to clean up the galleries and the rest of the wiki yet. It will take time.
Jason is an undead cyborg who went into space but they were no aliens in the movie. In my opinion any character that is human in origin must regularly encounter aliens in order to qualify. Except for Inhumans because they were created by aliens
Could you provide a better changelog explanation than " updated since my last visit " for Category:Uplift_Universe? That just makes it sound like you don't want any other editors on ASW and it's extra confusing because you didn't revert to your last visit.
Sorry, there was a message in the history that looked like a changelog comment but it is not there now, seems to be connected to the MediaWiki:Updatedmarker file.
Anyway my point was I would like to know why you made the changes you did. If it has something to do with the link to another wiki the new policies would seem to make those kinds of links more important to have.
Alright, well, the reason for the change is that the introductory sentence to the "Universe" categories serves only to clarify what work of fiction constitutes the universe in question. It's not meant to be a place to advertise other wikis. In fact, we should keep this kind of thing to a minimum.
I will interpret minimum as: only one link (unlike the Category:Star_Trek_Universe that has 4), not being the only text on the page, and using interwiki link code and not elinks. Thank you for clarifying, I didn't want us both to be re-editing the same page within minutes of each other.