Category talk:Warcraft Universe

Maybe I'm out of line here - I recognize that my account was made less than twenty-four hours ago, and that's why all I'm doing is starting a discussion. However, should Warcraft material be allowed? Is "alien" just "something that doesn't live on Earth"? Because if so, it feels like this is going to open up a huge can of worms as far as fantasy creatures are involved. Is Xanth an alien nation? It certainly has creatures fantastic enough to write articles about them.

I would propose that, in a setting, if Earth is not existent, the "starting point" is considered "Earth," and creatures indigenous to that place are not "aliens." The starting point should be easy enough to pick out - for Warcraft, it's Azeroth. For Everquest, it's... whatever planet on which the events of Everquest are taking place. Differing planes of existence also should not count as "alien worlds," thus gods (he said, already thinking of SG:1) would not have articles written about them.

This is just to keep ASW feeling more like sci-fi and less like fantasy. Let me know what you all think. Kilroy8675309 11:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * The Warcraft series takes place on three different planets, that are specifically stated as being different planets - Azeroth, where most of the series takes place; Draenor, where the Orcs originated from and is now known as Outland; and Argus, which is where the Draenei originated from (this third world won't appear until another expansion they presumbaly have planned down the road, since when WoW came out they immediately had 6 expansions planned for release. Anything that specificially states it comes from another planet counts as an extraterrestrial, as that is what defines an extraterrestrial.  For this same reason, however, (most) Final Fantasy species have never been added because it is never stated as being another planet (in fact, Final Fantasy XII specifically shows that Ivalice - the setting of, at the very least, FF Tactics and Tactics Advance as well as XII) is, in fact, Earth, only under the spell from some crazy book.


 * In the same manner, if the series only stated it as being the "world of Azeroth" such as how Legend of Zelda refers to its kingdoms as "the kingdom of Hyrule", the kingdom of Termina", et cetera, it'd be far more difficult to determine whether they were actual planets or not, and therefore probably should not be placed here until this can either be confirmed or denied.


 * Oh -- alternate dimensions count, too -- otherwise we pretty much couldn't have TMNT stuff like Dimension X, Krang, or various other things show up here despite the fact that TMNT is actually heavy alien-based (which one might not immediately take into account). As for the Rikti, they are on here because...well, I won't ruin City of Heroes for you if you're like me and abhor spoilers.  That being said, they're stated as aliens from the very beginning - and that means the Beta Tests (which I was a part of).


 * Personally, I understand the concern. At the same time however, I certainly cannot help whether creators of alien races and the like choose to have them wholly based in fantasy or not -- I'm not a published science fiction writer (yet).  As the person who brought this wikia back to life from its original fate in 2006, I feel this wikia could become one of the most intense wikias around, cataloguing every "known" alien species out there in media.  That being said, feel free to add the most obscure (published) alien races you know!  There are well into the millions of species, planets, (important) affiliations, and minerals left to be added here.  And yes, this includes stuff like planet Very Berry Watermelon.  Personally, I generally try and add the more obscure things that no one else might end up thinking of adding, because I would like to see this wikia complete in its information - or at least as complete as it could ever be. -- Somarinoa 20:51, January 9, 2010 (UTC)