User talk:BlueFrackle

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Alien Species! Thanks for your edit to the File:Acklay.jpg page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Eulalia459678 (Talk) 03:43, May 24, 2009

thanks for prettying up the pages i worked on...i'm still new to the wiki business. -- User:Dyga19

Sagan IV
Wait...you know about Sagan IV? Are you a member of it? Because I'm a moderator to the site; in fact, I am the one who wrote the description to Mason. - Somarinoa 20:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

admin
I would like to become admin if i do i will give you bureacratic rights

thanks for the support
Owen1983 02:48, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Superinteressante Universe
Would you happen to have any more information on the creatures from that article? The two on this wiki are pretty interesting. Dyga19 06:29, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Followup
Hell, if you can provide the pictures and the info, I can write the articles myself. :) Dyga19 05:47, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Main page
I main page looks great thanks for the work Owen1983 15:56, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Wondering
Have you heard from Somarinoa Owen1983 12:47, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

the images are great
thankyou for taking the tim to upload them Owen1983 16:46, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

the NACW
I have read this article two and I would like to get everyones opinion on this IMHO its something we should look arOwen1983 19:23, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Mudpod
So i herd u liek mudpodz?

Blue Frackel has practically DOMINATED alien species wiki. So has Meter. You guys have to go to Crocodillian. It's like, the best page on this website! Click here to go there.

Bluefrackle is a senior editor and an acting Bureaucrat and IMNO an experienced member of ASW same goes for meter I trust these users --Owen1983 11:41, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, thank you guys, it is kind of hard to be such an active user here and still have a social life and hobbies, lol! Fortunately, I manage to do it by dedicating my online time ONLY to this wiki, at the expense of my poor abandoned blog, facebook and other stuff. About the Crocodillian, it is a great article, thanks for pointing it! By the way, have you seen this? I've just found it while searching the net, it is a croc Xenomorph from a Batman vs. Aliens comic, we should totally add a page for it here :) BlueFrackle 14:29, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Humanoid
I restored it in my opinion its a great article I am glad I saved it --Owen1983 13:13, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

User Rights
I have been aware of inconsistencies with staff so in order to alleviate this problem i have created the above page this will insure the ASPF has suitable personnel --Owen1983 02:03, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

your suggestions
I like what you have done blue --Owen1983 17:34, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

space jockey
thanks for cleaning it up yesterday there was a spate of IP vandalism after I blocked the anon i had to clean up I must have overlooked this --Owen1983 21:12, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! BlueFrackle 14:45, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

editing conventions
hey BlueFrackle, sorry it took me so long to reply to your message; i haven't been on ASW in a bit. i think the editing conventions cover most if not all the bases: what articles should be added, what they should include, and what categories they should fall under, etc. you and Owen did a nice job on them! ill let you know if i think of anything else that might be useful. all the best. Dyga19 02:50, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Revisions.
Hi! I'm Nexus11, if you didn't already know me. I was looking over some pages and do not deem them up to code. Do I have permission to revise and/or rewrite these articles? Thanks! Nexus11 03:50, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I have created many pages already and I am planning to create many more. Firstly, I will fill out the metroid universe. Thank you for welcoming me! Nexus11 21:33, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Largest Alien
Hey Blue, i still confusing about the largest alien. Is "Large alien hand" is bigger then Yog-Sothoth?

User Rights.
Man I nominate myself for rollback rights? Is there another process I have to go through first? Thank you. Nexus11 16:24, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, you're a very reliable person. Nexus11 00:08, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Patrolling.
Do we actually have a system for that? Or is it based completely on word. Because if it turns out it is the latter, I can initiate a policy. The policy would have to be checked by the admins, of course, but it would be largely based off of the wikitroid (an extremely successful wiki) policy. Nexus11 02:11, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

ACKKK! I've been inactive, I am SO sorry. The worst part about it is I won't even be active this next week. I've been so busy with school. I am really, really, sorry. I promise I'll come back NEXT week though. Once again, I am SO sorry. Nexus11 02:39, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Old Galactic
What is Old Galactic? -Yoggie 20:48, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I have very sad news. I have been accused of sockpuppeting by an idiotic user, and although I haven't been the most active user here, at least you can agree that I wasn't a bad person right? I'm going to bring my case before wikia staff. Hopefully I'll win, but I don't know for sure. In the case that I don't, please remember me as a good person? Thanks. Nexus11: Because pure dominance isn't enough 02:53, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Game
Hey blue, i have seen the Lost Planet 2 game walkthrough and it's quiet epic. I've been thinking how bout if this alien species wiki have a game that contain all alien or every species in this wiki as an NPC and we're gonna fight them with Lost Planet ways. Do you have any connections with game producer?If you're appreciated my idea let us chat together. Thanks - Yoggie 7:26 2nd of March 2011

Award.
It is my honor to award you the ASW: Gold star award. You have been a valuable contributer and have a very large amount of edits on this wiki. If you would like, you can post the award on your user page. Nexus12: Because pure dominance isn't enough {PATROLLER} 17:12, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks man, I'm honored to receive this! It's gold and everything, ha! BlueFrackle 20:43, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well you can thank Owen for the design, he's the real mastermind behind the whole awards system! :) Nexus12: Because pure dominance isn't enough {PATROLLER} 15:44, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
thanks for cleaning it up.--Owen1983 13:38, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, can you do me a favor? When you get around to it, it would be great to have your opinion on the amendment I just suggested here thanks! Nexus12: Because pure dominance isn't enough {ENSIGN} 21:46, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

I would support you 100% for admin rights. You deserve them. I am honestly surprised that you're not an admin! Go ahead and nominate yourself! I'm behind you all of the way! Nexus12: Because pure dominance isn't enough {ADMIN} 21:39, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you can still call me Nexus. I'm thinking of changing my name anyway. But yeah, good luck with the RfA! Already voted before you even sent me the message XD Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 20:55, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

Admin
Y really like the high quality of your edits, plus you dedication to this wiki is remarkable You would make a great admin.---Owen1983 00:44, May 28, 2011 (UTC) 'm going to close the amendment posed in Policy Decisions as successfully passed and amend the current policy. If you have anything more to say about it, please do so. Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 01:19, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Logo
Thats perfect. Now all we need is an admin to add it through the theme designer. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 15:26, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

New Loho
The site has a new logo that you designed. Good work--Owen1983 13:17, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations
on you promotion to the rank of captain (Admin). its a position that you deserve and we feel you will serve us well in--Owen1983 14:55, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Handing you the keys to the city
BlueFrackle, for your dedication and service to our cause, I hereby grant you the powers and responsibilities of a member of the Alien Species Protection Force. You should now have full protective (see: administrative) abilities, as well as a fully-functional Rollback-class time fluctuation device. May you fight well against the forces that would undo everything. -- Somarinoa 02:59, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Rules and Policies
we would be grateful if you would help us out I have expanded the rules but giving a guess a lot more needs to be done If you have any more ideas I will be happy. - --Owen1983 16:04, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'm gonna kick off our little "Policy editors group" thing on a forum on this wiki. That way, anyone can come suggest and improve upon ideas. See ya there! Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 22:49, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Multiverses wiki
Hey BlueFrackle. You may or may not be familiar with User:Pinguinus, but he has asked me if his wiki, Multiverses wiki, could become a sister wiki of ASW. You could almost think of it as another Alien Fanon Wiki, but unlike Alien Fanon Wiki, it is beginning to show more and more activity. I support him, but I certainly cannot make a decision on my own. I'm sending this messagee to all current members of the ASPF and hope that each of you can get back to me as quickly as possible. Thanks, Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 20:59, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Contest
You can add a photo if you want, but its not a requirement. The same goes for the other details such as culture and psychology. Bear in mind, however, that the more information you add, the better. I for one would love to see a lot of information, but if that's not entirely possible, so be it. Pinguinus 01:55, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

I've started an RfC for Multiverses. After Pinguinus has answered the questions, please vote. Thanks, Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 18:09, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia editor
I am beginning a trail of the new editor as its in beta the wiki will be on it for 24hrs this f we have any issues we can revert back to the new look. --Owen1983 21:46, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Klingon revision
It's a word-for-word copy from Memory Alpha as Mario pointed out. The article was not written by our hand, thus revision in this case meaning, we need to re-write it in our own words. Not that we necessarily have too, but this little schism with the K-2L article may have me suggesting something painful on Forum:Policy :/ Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 02:58, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

First off, congratulations on the contest! As for the Klingon article, I wasn't aware that you had changed it. See, the links that I clicked were links to MA, so I thought the whole article was copy-pasted. I can change the wording in the template a bit because plagiarism is a bit harsh, I'll admit. I was just looking for a term and it suited my needs at the time. Anyway, I'll redo the Klingon links and take the template off. Right after I speak to Mario. This won't be fun. -_- Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 15:18, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

The not fun part was talking to Mario, actually. :P And I'm working on the page in another window. The reason I'm fixing links is, their all broken. Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 16:29, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Congratulations, BlueFrackle! Your Tahawe won the Design an Alien Contest. Thank you for entering these wonderful creatures. If you wish, feel free to stop by at Multiverses and create your own planet. We'd love to have you there!

Again, congratulations! Pinguinus 03:24, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

congratulations on winning --Owen1983 15:28, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I had a couple of questions about the Tahawe. One, do they actually colonize other planets? Second, everybody is writing fiction over on Multiverses. Can I include the Tahawe in mine? Pinguinus 15:47, July 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for the info! I'll send you a link to any fiction I write involving them. Pinguinus 11:05, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

OK! Thanks for answering my question, I don't mind if it came a bit later than I intended. Now, another question: would a Tahawe fight if there was no other choice? Pinguinus 23:30, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Design An Alien Contest
Just so you know, the Design an Alien Contest is operational again. Here's the link, in case you want to submit something: User blog:Pinguinus/Design an alien contest Pinguinus impennis 12:25, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Block of "The Joke Master".
I have blocked User:The Joke Master for trolling. daNASCAT has intervened on another wiki, stating The Joke Master (previously User:Ghostytreat) is unfit for wiki work. Pending the review of the other admins, I will also be removing his RfA from the User Right's page. Comments and advice for this matter are greatly appreciated, and should be left on my talk page. Thank you, Lord Phoenix   at your service  01:41, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Admin's Council.
Per the above message, leave your comments here. Thanks. Lord Phoenix  at your service  02:05, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

ASW: Notice Board
I got the idea from the GTA wiki and it works well the idea is people can suggest and vote for changes tho ASW can you look it over and tell me what you think ASW: Notice Board --Owen1983 18:55, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Two months of penance
As per the title above I will be taking two months off for a debt to someone. Please watch ASW diligently in my stead. Lord Phoenix  at your service  19:45, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re:More Trouble
Its a new character to sonic x because he will be new to sonic soon and don't threaten to do that or i will have to contact a staff and they'll see your action log and they'll take action about it, They will revoke the other abusive admins and your rights and block you and the others so be nice.Terrific joker 03:48, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Jokemaster
I have read your messege and I also sent him a messege and like you I don't want to see him blocked but if he continues to upset other admins an cause disruption to ASW he is giving us no option and we are near this point to be honest we have been very lenient with him and all he does is carry on trolling. --Owen1983 07:43, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Article Comments
Really the community should be united on things, I will probably make a blog post discussing it as a possible option. As my argument will be heavily biased, I think it falls to you to provide the pros of the article comments as mine will be mostly cons, before a formal RfA is drafted up, if it appears the community is split on the matter. Lord Phoenix  at your service  05:32, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I am afraid I have to go along with Insurgence he has made a case Biased or not he is intitled to an opinion and article talk pages serve the same function as comments do--Owen1983 18:20, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Another policy amendment?
Just throwing this out there for comment, I was thinking of suggesting another amendment that would put a timeline on ASPF requests. Since right now they just go on forgotten until someone remembers them. Please feel free to add anything, as this is just a rough idea. Lord Phoenix  at your service  01:32, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I do like your idea of 3 positives for every negative. That would be an efficient way of seeing whether someone passes or fails. Lord Phoenix  at your service  23:16, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Legal?
Hi, this is Dr. Anonymous. I was wondering: would you allow it if I recycled an article from Wikitroid (with their permission, of course) for use on ASW? I mean, as long as I included a disclaimer that said where I got t, I think I'd be OK, but I gotta be sure. User: Dr. Anonymous1 18:22, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's pretty much the case here. Plus, said creature has such lengthy information, to write an original article about it would take all day.

Hey, thanks! I try the best I can. It's always rewarding to get praise from an Admin. User: Dr. Anonymous1 18:47, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the case with the article I'm referring to. I might have to omit some stuff that would be irrelevant here, such as logbook scans and.. Well, I'm assuming you don't do galleries.

Hey, thanks! It's always rewarding to be appreciated by users. Expect more in the next few days! User: Dr. Anonymous1 19:07, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Hey, thanks for adding that picture to the Meekrob page. I would do so myself, but my iPod won't let me do ANYTHING with images. Could you add an image to the Vortian page too?

So, you say that English isn't your first language? I'm actually surprised; it's never shown in your posts and edits. If you don't mind my asking, what IS your first language? Sorry, I'm notorious for my insatiable curiosity, to the point where one admin called me a "nosy little cuss." I don't like him.

Anywho, I intend to make an article for all the species of Invader Zim in the future, but it's gonna be hard. I'll do my best, though. Signing off, User: Dr. Anonymous1 01:59, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, really? Excellent! I see you've also added pictures for the Planet Jackers and created a page for the Abductors. Thanks! And you're right: that WAS a great show. Don't see stuff like that anymore... User: Dr. Anonymous1 20:03, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Dantescifi
While I appreciate all the species he's been adding up (though he's only copy-pasting, which I could have been doing all this time too...but that's alright, I suppose; we really should at least have the articles, right?), his activity has become suspicious to me, and I've been keeping an eye on him. Since he hasn't been adding images to his innumerable Wookieepedia articles that would otherwise possess them, I was taking the liberty of adding a few of them myself when I noticed he created some, but in the process noticing that a number of the pages he has been adding do not exist on Wookieepedia at all. The numbers are becoming staggering and honestly, I severely doubt that the Star Wars community would overlook so many species. The fact that so many of his articles also list them as looking "identical to " is also strange and highly suspect, as what writer of official fiction would do this so often? Wouldn't they simply use the existing races instead of making up some random "identical to another" race? Star Wars has thousands of races, sapient, non-sapient and semi-sapient. I think they could find a race to suit their needs.

The thing that made me truly suspicious however was when I posted up my questioning as to what books these species came from or if they happened to be fanon, Dantescifi  deleted  every instance of me creating talk pages about it, and then refused to respond to his own talk page. That is not a natural reaction unless someone is trying to hide something.

I have come to the conclusion that a large number of his articles are in fact fanon, and he is abusing the wiki for his own monumental achievement gain. I suggest a hearing between the admins to figure out what to do about his actions. In the end, temporarily blocking or even permabanning him does not take too much away from us - I can easily copypasta like 10-50 Wookieepedia articles a day myself; I just prefer to rewrite all the information I come across, which generally takes time per article and usually leads to me adding far fewer articles than I otherwise could be contributing. It should be noted that there is a second Star Wars wiki that I know of - The Old Republic Wiki. I have not checked this site for his adds yet to see if they may have made their first appearance in that game, though I highly doubt it to be true that they did (though I do know one fan created species does appear in Old Republic). I will begin compiling a list of species he has added that I cannot find on Wookieepedia or Old Republic Wiki, and create a blog about it so it's easier for everyone to access. Keep me and the others posted on thoughts or ideas. -- Somarinoa 15:11, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Dentescify
I have blocked this user for 3 days. Hopefuly this will give us time to clear up the mess why we decide what to do.--Owen1983 19:50, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

its OK
I am glad your back and don't worry because we all take breaks and sometimes there unavoidable. --Owen1983 (talk) 19:24, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

114.77.239.208
Well done for clearing up jos edit and Blocking him. Owen1983 (talk) 18:47, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

my response
you left a message on my talk page, I responded there. . . I wasnt sure if you got my response or not. ralok (talk) 23:13, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

house cleaning
I want to ask, can I get admin rights for a few weeks. . . this wiki needs some major house cleaning and I have the time, drive, and vast amounts of encyclopedic knowledge to do it. ralok (talk) 01:01, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hypernauts in Galleries
recently I uploaded a good amount of hypernauts content, but the gallery pages function confuses me. . . also the alphabet confuses me, could you maybe add the pictures to the proper galleries? Also I highly recommend hypernauts, can be watched on youtube (I am going to tackle Can of Worms next I think) ralok (talk) 16:17, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars Species
if the page is only two sentences long, and claims the species is identical to another. . . DELETE IT do not fix the categories. . . just delete it. It is part of a huge vandalism project that DanteSciFi undertook. I have deleted over 200 of these pages, these species do not exist in any way in the star wars universe (having triple checked every single one of the, I can assure you that if the page follows this pattern it is non existent) he also vandalized a few species whose physical description was unavailable, by saying they were identical to some other race. . . so if you see the words "identical" in the first line, or "externally indistinguishable" delete the line, or the entire page. ralok (talk) 15:07, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

I try to help when I can dude :I it is a monumental effort O _ O BUT we did hit a land mark, sapient beings now has less pages in it than sapient species (so sapient species should appear first on the list when adding categories) ralok (talk) 15:32, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Help with infobox template
I know how to add an infbox but I have a lot of trouble adding images to them. Whenever I add it, I link it but it still doesn't show up. Can you fix the pics on the Magus and Yardrat articles that I made? 21:29, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE:Featured Articles
well, I think it's an interesting idea, but perhaps it could be a separate section, to show editors how to do pages, because I think that featured articles should be monthly and elected by people.--面白い 00:42, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

also I want to delete those tree pages again, the sad truth is that there is controversy over the epona pages. . . and those files, and pages are misnamed concerning the epona thing ralok (talk) 01:07, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

I am keeping the "mars and beyond" pages for now. . . just not the epona tree. ralok (talk) 01:36, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Predator Page (Remake)
I have come to the conclusion that the predator page is irreparable, I have started recreating a new page for the Yautja from scratch. And I would like your opinion on it, click here to see it. I had to create a new format for the page to show the sources of non-film information, so that contradictory information doesnt butt-heads. . . if it works out, it is my hope to redo the xenomorph page in a similiar way (for it is also borked). ralok (talk) 23:22, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

speculation
I disagree on speculation. . . I think there is only two kinds of speculation that can, and should, be allowed. . . in-universe speculation (speculation from characters within the universe) and diet-speculation, speculation that is formed purely from observations of the material and facts within it and doesnt add any new fabricated information. ralok (talk) 00:39, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

THAT IS AN ENIGMA
And .. . it has been tooooooooormenting me!!! I am sorry to say that I do not have the answers at this exact moment > _ < But I think " Inhabitants" is best... But I think that the " Wildlife" category is still needed because I would like people to be able to sort wildlife via planet likewise " Vegetation" for plant-like organisms. But I definitly want to get rid of thte " Species" and " races" categories, because typically there is. . . only one sapient species per planet. ralok (talk) 22:01, March 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think "Martians" needs to be replaced with "Mars Inhabitants" for the sake of category consistency. As for micro-organisms . . . I have no idea :I but Fungi go into vegetation because of their superficial resemblance to plants, and the fact that they fit one of the many definitions of vegetation . . . This category thing is more than a bit confusing though > _ > sorry about that :/ but I agree with your star system idea . . . ralok (talk) 22:45, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

at some point. . . I plan on going through every single pageo n the wiki x _ x currently I dont have time with because I have projects outside the wiki that I need to focus on. ralok (talk) 23:08, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks
hi BlueFrackle i like to fix things that spells incorrect if you saw something that spells incorrect send message MARIOWORLDXX (talk) 23:01, March 30, 2013 (UTC)

88.253.148.187
I am glad you blocked this hacker and reverted the damage he caused Owen1983 (talk) 01:49, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * "Hacking" he edited a page that anyone could edit, I am not saying the guy wasnt a hacker... or that his skills were in any way lackluster. But if he wanted to prove his skill, he should have targeted something so obvious. But in a way I am glad he did it, because it called attention to an issue . . . we need to get a new featured article up. ralok (talk) 02:54, March 31, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, the next one who tries this is going to need more hacking skills. I've changed the protection on the Main Page so that only admins can edit it now. And you're right, it's time to get the new FA for April! -- BlueFrackle (talk) 13:28, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

Hello again, and RFA open.
Hello. It's been a while. How are you?

Also, RFA. ASPF:User Rights#Insurgence RFA. Vote/Comment/Whatnot. I'm going to revamp that User Rights page soon so it isn't so... cluttered. мет еж   19:33, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, would you like me to archive your talk page?  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 19:33, April 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah, it was you! Well, good job to you then! By the way, I notice there is a mass-adding of the sapient species category to certain pages, so I'll get started on that. And thanks for the support!  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 23:03, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

no
it is completely useless! Therer is no difference in saying "creature with alternative biology" than saying "alien" the category has no meaning. I refuse to allow the utterly meaningless category, it was deleted once before it is gonna be deleted again. As well I am pretty sure I got the go-ahead to delete it the first time. ralok (talk) 21:37, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

you arent seeing the problem here, you want to have technically incorrect categories. Use your creativity a little and actually come up with more appropriate category names, instead of anthropocentric non-sense that refuses to be correct for the sake of having a category filled with weird creatures. The whole idea behind "alternate forms of life" as a category is stupid for the reason you stated anyways, there are innumerable other possible biochemistries, and each should be listed in its own category. . . after all, to any of these life forms we are the alternate. ralok (talk) 21:48, May 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * sorry that was an accident with the rollback button > _ > ralok (talk) 22:08, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

how about
what do you think about "Indeterminate Biology" instead of "unknown biochemistry" and "Irregular Lifeforms" instead of "Alternative forms of life" I think "Irregular" (or maybe "Nonstandard") feels a lot less anthro-centric, and gets the poitn across better ralok (talk) 22:16, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * "Irregular" doesn't cover all non-anthrocentric forms of life.  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 22:21, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think you miss the point, anthrocentric means (at least I think it means) human centric . . . "alternative forms of life" would apply to all forms of life different to us, but "irregular lifeforms" applies to a broader sampling of life, basically saying any form of life that deviates significantly from the norm. . . the norm being defined by the majority of species hosted here. i know its a stretch but I think that it fits better with what is wanted to inhabit the category. ralok (talk) 22:25, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * But it doesn't apply to all. It purports that they are just lifeforms that are moderately different from the norm, but are otherwise made up of the same chemistry, or molecules. I hate to keep using memetic life forms as an argument, but there it is.  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 22:31, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess we could use "Abnormal" but that feels insulting . . . "Non-standard" feels a little . . . small. And "strange" just feels adolescent. ralok (talk) 22:33, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

(Undent) I would prefer Non-Standard to Irregular. Let's hear what BlueFrackle has to say. мет еж   23:30, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn’t log in yesterday. The discussion about alternative life forms has kind of spun out of control and I have so much to say on the matter, I decided to write a blog post: User blog:BlueFrackle/Alternative Forms of Life. Just to answer your question: if the choice is between "irregular" and "nonstandard" I too prefer "nonstandard". "Irregular" kind of sounds like they're "wrong" somehow. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 14:43, May 11, 2013 (UTC)