User talk:Ralok

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Alien Species! Thanks for your edit to the Bio-raptors page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Somarinoa (Talk) 04:41, April 16, 2012

Answering rhetorical question
Yes. Fauna. It is this websites' word for what most science-fiction writers would simply call "animals", which is wholly incorrect as animals evolved specifically on Earth and nowhere else (unless at one point removed from Earth). For the same reasoning, we refer to plant-analogs as "flora", as plantae is a kingdom on Earth, again, specifically. -- Somarinoa 08:14, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * No fauna is just a fancy world for animals it isnt meant to be specific to earth. There is a distinction between sapient beings and fauna though, sapient beings are the shapers of the landscape, non-sapient beings are simply figures in the landscape. Sorry symphony of science is blazing in the speakers XD ralok 08:23, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I have check the pages you marked for deletion and all of them we did not need you this has helped keep ASW clean Thank you for doing this and keep it up. --Owen1983 19:50, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am only doing my duty, to help make this place a bright beacon showcasing the grand scope of human creativity. ralok 00:35, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nomination
You've been nominated for admin here. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 21:53, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re:That hurt man
As I said before, it's nothing personal. Don't lose faith anyway, it's still the decision of the community which will be decided by majority. I just don't think we need another admin. Anyway, admin powers mostly consist of deleting pages and blocking vandals. Anyone can nominate a page for deletion, but the deletion still needs to be discussed anyway, and the cases where it doesn't usually equate to vandalism. You can redo the front page as it is now without admin powers, if the ASPF agrees it should be redone (which I do) and you can request temporary admin rights to redo the theme, if you give us an idea of what you're planning to do. Neither of those things require permanent admin rights.

It's not personal, and an admin needs to be able to set aside their emotions when they come to a disagreement. I know you will understand. Insurgence:  Speak!  19:53, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

pleased
I am pleased you requested admin rights because


 * You have the wikis best interests in mind


 * You are a good spam spotter


 * Your eagerness to help out sets a good example for others this impresses me


 * Finely Adminship is something you would excel at. --Owen1983 11:22, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am particularly eager because this wiki literally doubles the meaning of many of the pages I make on other wikis! ralok 11:33, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Main Page changes
If you are planning to make drastic changes to the main page, I'd recommend creating a subpage of your user page like, User:Ralok/New Main Page or something. That way you have a place to work without having to disrupt the main page too much. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 18:11, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
As first officer I would like to welcomr you to the ASPF. --Owen1983 22:53, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Logo
Wait, why did you change the logo? I sorta liked it before. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 02:35, May 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was actually trying to go for something specific with the logo, I wanted to replicate the white text . . . and have the same starscape as the background on the wiki, I have this basic placeholder until I can find the starscape for the old logo! ralok 02:42, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

New Theme
I was wondering what you had planned for the theme there. Good choice! -- 04:49, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey i need you help I got the wrong name for the Metarex from Sonic X can you help me now

Hey. Could you come on the chat when you get the chance? Insurgence:  Speak!  22:08, May 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you think you can demote yourself now? You've accomplished what you needed admin status to do. Insurgence:   Speak!  21:50, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I have never had to demote myself before, so I am not sure how to do it. . . give me a minute to figure it out. . . I am currently in the middle of res-structuring the front page ralok 21:53, May 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, when you're done, go to the admin dash board - user rights - type in your name - click the checked administrator box. Also, don't get rid of the sister projects thing. I sort of made a deal with the good folks over at Multiverses to keep it on. Insurgence:   Speak!  21:56, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I tried to not get rid of anything, just re-structing it. I also want to add a blog-feed but the thing is i dont know how to limit the number of blogs that appear on the front page to two ralok 22:01, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

okay done, I am no longer an administrator. ralok 22:12, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I am realty impressed with the main page --Owen1983 16:39, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which ones? So far I've got 2 sources, please be specific, the Paulans/Cybiota, or the brinker-roos/jellyblimps etc.?Fanaticalien45 00:24, June 13, 2012 (UTC)fanaticalien45

Okay, I think I know what you're talking about, the aliens come from a book called "National Geographic Picture Atlas of Our Universe", it's an old book with a speculative section on alien life, I have not made them up. It's little known, I found some of it's material online an various blogs.

Vandal
Don't give him much of a reaction. That will feed him a response, which is what they want. "Don't feed the trolls." The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 03:00, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

THANKS
I have investigated and block him.--Owen1983 16:41, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for patrolling, I've been away recently. My deepest gratitude! Insurgence:   Speak!  {ADMIN} 03:46, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Logical error?
I would probably agree if it wasn't shown officially in-universe to be used as such (as that is the entire point of that one room), and we're here for all known information along with attempts to better understand species through (openly-stated) speculation. There would be no reason for it to be stated if it wasn't precisely referenced in-game, though it is (and I've definitely seen the room personally in Skyrim). The games used to be a bit more sexual in content before Morrowind (I don't remember too much about Arena but Daggerfall certainly was; it was the first game I ever experienced mature content in so I remember it well) and that room is presumably a throwback to the old ways of the series. I am not sure I see how that then is a logical error. Where precisely does the line get drawn on correct information? — Somarinoa 00:38, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a few errors, first in teh phrasing implying common usage . . . second the fact tha any object . . . can . . . I dont want to say this . . . I will use a metaphor .. . . object A goes into slot B . . . object A can be any object that does not exceed slot Bs size . . . we dont need to state that it can be used for that . . . when there is a trillion other such object that can be used for that . . . :I . . . more practical uses of horker tusks should be listed, such as alchemical effects from morrowind . . . its average value presented in both games . . . ralok 03:09, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

I heard there is going to be a new Dragon ball z series called dragon ball hoshi. Is it real?--119.160.142.4 17:42, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would say no . . . these sort of things dont usually happen with japanese works . . . they ususalyl dont have expanded works, or new works beyond the main story . . . and if you ask me it makes Japanese science fiction really boring ralok 18:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

please be civil
To start I appreciate you getting you helping get rid of trash but your edit summery for Mastimee could have been better IE use of caps is shouting and you were angry actions like these start nastiness and promote bad karma which is not what I want. so pleas don't let it happen again. --Owen1983 (talk) 17:15, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Wanna help?
Hey Ralok, thought you'd be interested in moving all the fanon info we have on the site to a new sister wikia I came up with, Extraterrestrial Fanon Wiki. Figured you probably know what a lot of it happens to be considering how often I see you editing pages like that, haha. — Somarinoa (talk) 02:12, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * sure, if I have time ralok (talk) 02:18, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Alien Species
Hello Ralok! First, I believe I haven't talked to you yet so I'd like to give my personal welcomes to the ASW and thank you for all the help you've been giving us. Second, there's a small question I'd like to make. I've noticed you have been removing all pages from the alien species category. I'm not particularly fond of that category myself (while it's nice to have all alien species in a single place, it is also sort of unfocused and not easy to navigate) but I'm curious: why are you doing that? If there's a fair reason, I could help you by taking care of not including it in the next pages I add. If not, it's likely that I'll do the same, just so I won't spoil your efforts; but I like to know the reasons for changes, even small ones. See you around! -- BlueFrackle (talk) 23:42, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a very simple reason, this is the alien species wiki . . . we dont need to state that they are alien species twice! If it is here it is an alien species, even if it is alien by only the narrowest of definitions. Besides can you name any species that . . . isnt alien to you? I bet I could squeeze every creature on earth into the definiton of being alien, by some type of logic. It just feels like a redundant un-needed category. ralok (talk) 02:42, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That makes a lot of sense, we're all aliens from some-being's point of view, and there is no reason to make the wiki more anthropocentric. I also apologize for the delay in answering. On a side note, I really liked your rewrite of the Grey page, good work on that! Cheers :) BlueFrackle (talk) 23:44, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I know you are helping cleaning some categories, but maybe you could leave some that clarified what type of aliens they are, other than humanoids?User:Soulslayer317


 * I am trying to keep the categories BASIC for the time being until it can be determined . . . what the categories should be named, there are about 8 categories for reptillian species, 5 for amphibians. . . there is too much dispute over what some of these categories even mean, like descendants of man . . . and near human, these two categories are basically the same, so which one gets used? ralok (talk) 18:48, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well I can see where you going, there have been some with similar names and it can be confusing I would've thought someone noticed it by now. And to note about the illustration of the Dryad,I like to pint out its not fan art but part of the illustration. User:Soulslayer317


 * this wiki is a huge mess, and it is going to take a long time to sort out . . . ralok (talk) 19:01, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re:House cleaning
I could nominate you to become a permanent admin on ASPF:User Rights if you wish. If you'd rather be just for a few weeks I believe we can skip the votes procedure, but you'll have to ask Somarinoa, he's the only one who can change user rights status -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:47, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hi ralok, i have seen aliens. Though i was in an asylum then lol. Anyways, i woundered is this wiki done by proper reseahers? You may need to look at the Sontaran page. 78.144.55.172 19:16, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Working on this page by page. ralok (talk) 19:21, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Hypernauts in Galleries
No problem, done already! And thanks for the suggestion, I had heard about Hypernauts but never watched it. Can of Worms, I honestly have no idea what it is (which makes me glad you're adding it, heheheheh) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 18:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Draconizica
Please restore the Draconizica page. Keep in mind that there are aliens on this wiki that are also from lesser known books, movies and games. If it helps get it restored, you may remove the self published link. Restore the page, please. It offers as resource to fans of TSODR. The book is copyrighted and has a proper fanbase. I know it is normal for you to dismiss anything not published with a "professional" tag like Penguin, EA, Random House, Harper Collins or Square Enix, but that does not mean it's not worthy of inclusion on this wiki, and if you're going to delete the page forever, restore it so I can grab the source code.

Thedragongod (talk) 00:41, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the page. I wanted to mention that I did sell phsyical copies of the book and it was copyrighted three years ago, and that spelling error in the title is wholly intentional. I did make a wiki for it months ago, but it sees no kind of action. I'm not sure how you could help because you haven't read the book and know nothing of the characters, but if I need your help with anything about it, I will contact you.

Thedragongod (talk) 02:49, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm actually the original author of the book and it was bound and printed by Lulu, not by my home printer. Sorry that you find the title immature, the ocntent surely is not. If you ever read it, leave your thoughts about it on my talk page.

Thedragongod (talk) 03:13, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

No problem ! :D

RE:Category confusion
i know that, but there 2 category for Sapient and Non-Sapient one containing the word species and the other one containing being.--Linkmadara 17:15, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Images of textures
I know you don't actually want textures from the model because they look creepy and i'm actually Yoyo by the way.--Sonic &#38; Gobo Fraggle 3 (talk) 15:43, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * So if you know we dont want them here . . . why upload them? ralok (talk) 15:59, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had to show the textures that were applied to make that character.--Sonic &#38; Gobo Fraggle 3 (talk) 16:04, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

No. . . you really didnt, that is completely irrelevent to everything. ralok (talk) 16:16, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

RE: NO
Hi, well sorry about my error, me wasn't the person who created the category Races of the Triangulum Galaxy. I looked the History of the category and i found what was created by an anonymous user, if me putted the category it's because so much articles has the category, it's more than 800 and i thinked what was necessary put the cateogry, thanks for adviced me, if you wanna talk more about this theme go to the chat. On my signature i can't because i have yet to fix a problem with it, while'll put this so you know it was I who said, and if you want to confirm veil in Wiki Activity. TejonMieleroXL777.

Category
All right, so that category it's bad, i understand, i'm going to help you to chip away that category, Then Sapient Beings it's acceptable? TejonMieleroXL777

Diddy kong
I read about the vandalism on his talk page and his post on Somorinoa's talk page so I blocked him and took the liberty of banning him from chat. --Owen1983 (talk) 20:38, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I am glad he has a wikia wide block becuse he deserves it. Owen1983 (talk) 22:14, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re; AAAHHHH
really? sorry i thought it was for species like living fire ,ect.--Linkmadara 14:05, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Dude why did you delete my post?

BaryMiner (talk) 10:57, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to show the world of the creatures I made.And what was onit was just a Wip.I just published it to save my changes

BaryMiner (talk) 11:01, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make that more clear in the guidlines?Do you know any alien forums where I can post my own stuff.

http://extraterrestrialfanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dorian (:

BaryMiner (talk) 11:36, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

sorry about the humanoid thing. Owen1983 (talk) 00:12, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Star Wars species
Thanks, I believe that will save me some time in the future. Right now I am quite annoyed at the amount of work that will be required until the category for races of the Triangulum galaxy has... well, only races of the Triangulum Galaxy in it... BlueFrackle (talk) 15:28, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, "try to help when I can" is an understatement, I'm aware that you corrected all species categories from A to G practically alone. In fact I'm surprised you haven't received the golden star award yet, I'll remind Owen to give you one :) BlueFrackle (talk) 15:43, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
You have been awarded the Gold star for your dedication tho ASW. --Owen1983 (talk) 21:10, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

why does it bother you so much?

ill stop but can you please leave the ones ive already done up there :)

A favor
I am going to undelete the Scirpian Bird while I movr it [] then I will delete it 18:02, January 15, 2013 (UTC)Owen1983 (talk)

re:category
i agree whit the unillustrated/illustrated category. but disagree on the alien species category as this wikia cover planets,galaxies,technology and important individual characters. --Linkmadara 20:42, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Why did you removed my edits to the alien species template? it adds optional information


 * First off sign your posts with four of these ~ second, are you referring to the template itself? or to a usage of a template on a specific page? I had to make serious edits to the template page to make the template more usable. ralok (talk) 18:03, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

How do my edits make it unusable? The fields are optional...--面白い 18:28, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * and all I did was add more optional fields, and remove the useless links that treat users like they are stupid. As well I cleaned up the convoluted and useless parts of the page. ralok (talk) 18:30, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Oh... well, you had removed fields, also, I wasn't the one to put the links. Also you messed up the codes...--面白い 18:32, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * NO I DIDNT, I did not remove a single field, I added a few and renamed a few though. And the codes are fine. ralok (talk) 18:47, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

They are fine now, there were mistakes on them, making lots of fields be invisible, also, the categories "other names" and "scientific name" had disappeared, maybe because of a code mistake at your edit.--面白い 18:53, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I hope you fixed it then, because I in no way wanted to get rid of those fields. ralok (talk) 18:58, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, templates are my specialty, it's fixed.--面白い 19:03, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE: sooo
Well, the Moorwen article has never been too good since I created it. I remember putting it in the main page because of the lack of good articles at that time.--面白い 18:30, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Exuse Me
I'm not trying to be so bogus around here. It's just i'm not sure if they are recycled and I've been hunting for re-used characters that are from their old show to another new one. Could you please be nice and be co-operative? I'll stop being a fake editor like their socks. Also, I'm Peggy Sue, not Diddy Kong from the Donkey Kong series.MuppeTickeler (talk) 21:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

hello,

I'm not sure why you deleted the entry I started on 'Fuhara' and called it 'fanonical clutter', and titled it 'take it elsewhere'.

Fuhara was listed as entry that needed to be created and I started to do so, seems pretty harmless.

thanks

Mister Silver (talk) 00:26, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

I see, perhaps it should be taken off the list of 'pages that need be created' as well.

Mister Silver (talk) 00:36, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Some of the stuff you deleted
I appreciate the end of that Terra mess, thank you. But I restored the page Sand Shifter, this one is real. Not sure if the name is real, I'll check it later, but it definitely is a hypothetical creature that appeared in Disney's Mars and Beyond, so, score one for Terra4, the guy gave us at least one legit addition... I'm thinking of bringing back some of the images as well, there is one artistic depiction of a terraformed Mars which might look good on the Mars page, I dunno. I restored one that represented an Eponan tree, we could use that, and there was some beautiful stuff by Alex Rie which I think I won't bring back because I have no idea if it has been published anywhere. And then there's this image signed by Wayne Barlowe, which I have absolute no idea what it is, please don't delete this one until we find out -- BlueFrackle (talk) 00:59, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, you may delete them if you think it's best. But later I would like to recreate the Mars and Beyond pages with more proper care. It's an obscure animated pseudo-documentary for children featuring imaginative martian beings, so, I'm kind of fond of it. No worries, I'll do it over the weekend if I get time. As for that Barlowe drawing, I've tracked its source to this site in case you're interested. I'll think about what to do with it over the weekend as well. As for the Mars creatures and Epona tree, you may re-delete them if you want, it's probably best for the moment -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:26, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry i'm not upset. I just need to know that if there was anything wrong with my page that you didn't like. Maybe you could give me advice on how to change it so that it satisfies you.Kepler11g (talk) 16:26, February 16, 2013 (UTC)kepler11gKepler11g (talk) 16:26, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

im sorry i'll have to find another site. nice site though.

Missing diagram
I noticed in the "Yautja: Circulatory System" page there is a diagram mentioned that is no longer present on the page. I've done a v. small search for it online and could not find it. Is there a way to track down a copy?

Defcon_IV (talk) 05:45, February 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * I left my reply on your talk page ralok (talk) 06:07, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Predator Remake
Looking great so far! Just remember that, while I agree that a complete rewrite is a good idea, not ALL of the speculation must necessarily be left out. ASW has always allowed speculation as long as reasonable and worded in a way to make clear it isn't canon. For instance, a sentence like "it is possible that the dreadlock-like structures in the Yautja head serve to help regulate temperature in their arid native environment" is acceptable, because it makes sense scientifically and would explain a trait that would be otherwise left unexplained. Something like "the Yautja are four times stronger than an average human and have six lungs" or even "it is possible that they have six or more lungs" are not very nice because, sure it IS possible, but there is no reason to suppose that (that I know of). Speculation: yes. Gratuitous speculation: eh... no. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 00:35, February 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, even if you disagree, this is the way ASW has always worked. It's one of the things that set ASW apart from other wikis that users are free to speculate (to some level). Ask Somarinoa, he's been here for longer than I and is the one who started the practice of scientific speculation on pages I believe. Of course, no policy is absolute, we can discuss about changing it if you'd like, but... well, I'm rather fond of it, I think it makes this site even more interesting :) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:07, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Added response
the article is very well written and very informative thanks Ralok for a job well done.Owen1983 (talk) 16:50, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

96.243.246.134
this anon has been creating problems first he has vandalized the Anunnaki then he created a useless page Snake Men I gave him a months block so he won't be around for a while but I have a feeling this wannabe troll will be back --Owen1983 (talk) 19:25, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Watch your back.
I noticed that "The Cruntues" has singled you out on the avp wiki. I know you don't know who I am but I am one of the original editors of the avp wiki. He is very bad, he allowed one person to talk about me being killed, and another person he let tell me I should kill myself. We avp fans where attacked by a chronic troll, The Cruntues protected them and interfered with a report I filed against him.

Long story short two other admins let me back on the website and without warning he re-banned me unjustly. This is a link showing references I am telling the truth, even Bert from wiki central was sympathetic with me.

Message between me and bman14

[http://dukenukem.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Bman14#I_need_your_help_on_the_AvP_wiki. ]

Message from Bert

[http://s103.beta.photobucket.com/user/bk-77-7/media/evidence_zps94904c4d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 ]

This guy not only purposely ignored canon information, he acted like a Nazi, for me to write something I basically have to have another editor back up what I say, even with references my edits meant nothing. He also punished me for having a bad stalker, he also defended said stalker, he insulted me AND without my permission is using 98+ of my pictures.

The wiki is a mess now, no one knows as much about the alien as me and now the lore is very screwed up, hell white aliens and swimmers are incorrectly labeled noncanon.

Delete this message when you get the chance, The Creuntes is very nosey, and he even at one point said he would watch all me wiki pages and if I did somthing wrong on them it would be used against me on avp wiki. --WAVE (talk) 01:53, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Response

 * I have tried to make my own wiki, I for some reason did not get a single tool to edit it and the codes never worked. It was ether deleted without notification or the stalker got to it. The guy could be dangrious from what I see him say...


 * 2nd I feel since I worked on their years as apposed to him being on their less than a year that he "The Cruentues" should be removed not me. There was a time where I was the only person watching over it, I should have been the one to adopt it. The took the wiki away from Nightmare76. I feel he has his own motives for wanting to be on that wiki. I also find it odd that he calls himself a "wiki traditionalist" when he has not had a wiki profile for very long. He could be double profiling. He should not be on the wiki for the soul fact he doesn't like avp...

Anyway JFYI the stuff excepted as canon is all the movies, games, novels, and comics, technically you can say the toy Aliens are 2ndary canon because they can be just like the toy because of the bio-imperative, thats a thing that "The Cruentues" prevented me writing about. My ref for the above statement is in the Alien Saga blu-ray set special features disc, "Alien Saga", it is also in the Alien Quadriligoy set 9th disc, Jon, one of the head writers of Promethues, also said that AvP is in the lore of Aliens, and then the guys that made ACM also stated in a P.S.M. that the four mediums above are canon.

Canon in this universe works more like a fair tale, fox doesn't mind their being inconsistentces between the movies. Here is a list I made for all those inconsistency from avp wiki.

 --WAVE (talk) 22:11, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

ps just be carful the guy is a compulsive liar. Look at this I prevented him from adopting the avpwiki and throughout out the whole thing he practically lied, you'll notice he had no references to back up his false claims but I did have references to back up what I was saying.




 * I've contacted the staff about "The Cruentus's" behavior and one of his counterfeit reasons to block TI154th. The counterfeit reason was Ather: Admins decision was not made yet and I told them to notify the admin not to give it back after The Cruentus being banned from Xenopedia. Hopefully, they should be able to take care of the bogus bureaucrat.--MuppeTickeler (talk) 18:33, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

I saw you blog.
I had a similar idea that you had about just showing the Colonial Marines in action against non Intervacius-Raptus. You see in their universe it is similar to Halos except the human race is even more fractured. Most of the countries we have now still remain and they have their own colonies. The closets thing to a united nations IS the corporations. Unfortunately we are at odds with them AND with colonies that break away from the United Americas and or other countries that where or just became hostile towards the United Americas.

Unlike what one poster said to you most of the weapons used by the Colonial Marines, and other branches and Armies of other countries, the United Americas infantry weapons ARE geared towards fighting humans. Just something to think about the Pulse Rifle alone is a one shot kill weapon against humans. It is a 10mm armor piercing exploding shell that uses steel as shrapnel. Any part of the human body this one shell hits it will hit an artery. The thing to think about is you see Intervacius-Raptus take two 3-4 round burst from this weapon some even survive, like the one that charged the elevator door near the end of Aliens that got blood on Hicks.

Now on to some bits of trivia you might not know. Firstly the Marines of the United Americas are also called on to deal with alien threats or threats to colonies. The United Americas Army I think is only stationed on American planets that have a high population. As far as Armored vehicles go the Army gets much better stuff than the Marines. Anyway they calls these alien threats bugs not because they are insectoids but because they are a pest or a nusance like a cold or a BUG. Exuding Rob Cob, the guy that does a lot of the designs for things in Aliens and now ACM, Cameron when he used the word Bug he meant it in the since that it is an infection, cold, flu, that is causing problems with a colony not an insect. Unfortunately the majority of the people that heard the term bug hunt, inculdinging Ron Cob, thought they meant insects.

The Intervacius-Raptus have very little in common with insects most the time, I say most the time because the Bio-Imperative can give them the ability the evolve really fast in anyway it or they need to, and they get attributes from their hosts, so if one where to come from an insectoid it would probably have insectoid features.

In order for something to be classified as an insect it has to meet these specifications.

Have an exoskeleton, most Aliens do not have this. Have six legs, most don't have this ether Have pincer mandibles, only one type has had this Has an abdomen that carries the heart and lungs, Aliens um might not have any of the above. Has a thorax, well for the most part no, humans and mammals are sometimes labeled as having a thorax it is incorrect and is really called the 'thoracic cavity'. Compounded eyes, they can but normally don't.   Carbon based.

Things that Aliens normally have the Insects don't have.

Hands, feet, thumbs, toes, fingers. Have Tails, Scorpions are not insects they are arthropod arachnids. Skulls skeletons. Special complex sensory organs that allow them to see things psychically in the front of what would be considered the brain of the alien. Mandible jaw Inorganic based life form.

Trust me I know a lot about the Alien, I should work for fox and make a complete visual encylopedia for the Alien Predator universe. --WAVE (talk) 01:02, March 1, 2013 (UTC)

Other points.
I am sorry I have to talk to you this way but its nice to see some one worth talking to from the avp wiki. I find it interesting that you want to have droids take up more important rolls in the series. I have a few things to point out about them that prob no one, including James Cameron, thought of about said droids. They follow 3 out of 4 of the laws of Robotics. One being they can not allow harm to come to human beings. Well since all the Countries of Earth still fight each other and said droids are standard compliments on ships how exactly can any fighting take place with them around? Their is two things that pop into my head immediately that can happen.


 * (1)The androids get in the way of everyone fight, if on the ground, or push the humans out of the way of their weapons interfaces on the ships, if they are in the NAVY, CoastGuard, and announce "by action I can not allow you to harm these humans."


 * (2)They are programed to only think of the country that owns the android as being humans, all other people in other countries, as far as their programing is concerned, is not human ergo they will allow the USCM to blow away any Deebee they see.

Now the other thing I wanted to talk to you about is the gender of the Intervacius-Raptus. They are really Hermaphrodites. To be exact because of the Bio-Imperative they have Sequential hermaphroditism. I am very very Happy you realize that in space involving non-human species that they will prob have genders that are extremely different than us, most of the people I was dealing with think things can only be male or female.

Now they have shown Aliens that have become Male gender. The reason they do this is to make 2ndary/Hybrid Intervacius-Raptus. My reference for this is in Aliens: Reaper, Aliens: Labyrinth. In Labyrinth they where making human women uber pregnant with hybrids.

You might ask "what is the point?" Well the point of being able to do this is so that they can thrive in any kind of hostile investment and survive against any sort of threat. They have more tactical option available to them that allows them to reproduce that doesn't not require a Egg laying type. With Male, or what ever is close to it depending on what they are dealing with, they can stay more mobile, if their enemy is actively searching for they hives this would be one reason why having Male Warriors impregnating Women would be a better option rather than setting up shop with out having a large enough force for a stand up fight, or the time to adapt. Or said impregnation could be a diversion to through their enemies of their scent while they are building up their true hive. --WAVE (talk) 18:01, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

PS could you please remove the non-canon tags on the Swimmer and White Hybrids, their is no reason at all they should be labeled non-canon. The swimmer came from the story Colonial Marines and the Hybrids came from Deadliest of the species, none of the books nor comics are non-canon as was stated in those sources I gave you, so why these Aliens would be considered non-canon is beyond me. The only thing I can think of is that they labeled them non-canon just to make me angry.

Talk about Raven and rare alien collectables coming out soon.
Hey their, I noticed you guys are talking about the Raven. Here are something things I would like to point out. I agree I don't think Radiation caused the Raven to be a Raven, but to say Radiation will not cause benificatl mutations is not exactly true. With most organic life this is a true statement, but when dealing with things that are very alien, like the aliens, they are an inorganic life form that is composed of inorganic materials, some of which are not identified by even the people in Alien resurrection, we can't be sure that their unique race will not beneficent from it or any other different very alien race. Something interesting to point out is that is shown the only forms of Radiation they have not been prepared from the get go to counter has been neutron based radiation weapons and Photon.

As for the Raven itself, just like every unique Alien you see, I am sure it evolved because of the Bio-Imperative. However their is a chance maybe it was created by other means. I would be surprised if their wasn't any black slime aboard the Pilots ship. I would be even more surprised if W.Y. had found it and not tested it on a volunteered participant. The entity that would be created because of the black slime contamination would look very similar to a Xenomorph, because it is one now, but would have distinct features that would set it apart for the most part from other Aliens created the way the fans are more accustomed too.

As for the canon issue presented to you by "The Cruentues" and that he has said people involved with ACM said that the other works are not canon, or something that can be interpreted as that, is false. I red it myself from the pres of Sega in a P.S.M. that the four mediums where canon and they where using them source material. The only problem was he did make it sound like avp was in a different universe, their is a loop hole with this.


 * The characters from the plan old Alien series run into the characters from avp stories a lot.
 * The features on the the alien saga disc say the four mediums are in a saga and they show still of avp stuff when they are saying this. Saga is a very powerful word it is better than even labeling things as canon. If you read the definition by default if it is in a Saga it is canon.
 * Lastly one of the writers of Prometheus said that AvP is in the "Alien mythology."

Ps have you noticed that the Cruentues wrongly decanoized the other Pilot Aliens just because they do not look like the Ultra Morph? LOL he uses false logic does he not remember that the Aliens do not have a fixed appearance? The Warriors change a lot between movies because of the Bio-Imperative, this would be the same reason why every Jocky Alien looks different. Besides those stories are part of the saga, just as fox says so those Pilot Aliens are still canon.

Now I have seen this moderator from sega or maybe gearbox going around saying everything made in those four mediums are not canon, problem with this is he is not the president of sega, fox, nor brandywhine, so his word means nothing.

Check this out. This is a preorder for alien collectables based on the colors of the two aliens in "Aliens Genocide."



It is reliable, I preorderd a G2 Fall of Cybertron Bruticus from them and it was freaking awesome. These recolors look cool and I want them, my only beef with them is that that Aliens seen in that story have different physical features than the toys, the toys are based of the aliens in "Aliens." If they were shaped like the ones in Aliens Genocide they would have these features.


 * Less curved heads
 * More angular curves
 * opposable thumbs on the foot
 * Very short and wide tubes on back
 * And the black ones would have a Green tinge.

Its funny, and you can check it out, in the same story aliens on earth that came from humans did not have a green tinge and they had longer tubes on their back. I think the difference is because of the creatures they came from on Xenomorph Prime and/or the Bio-Imperative. The Aliens on this Planet require different weapons and capabilities than the earth bound brothers on account they are fighting a different enemy.

Ether way they still look great and who knows if enough people buy them maybe they make the Purple King (Rogue) and White King (AP Deadliest of Species) --WAVE (talk) 22:23, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

One last thingamjig
I forgot to say that the Raven could be a Predalien. I have two reasons for this one is a mild one that could mean anything.


 * Firstly it has mandible blades, problems is Aliens can and have evolved to have mandible blades.
 * Seconded, did you notice in the room Winter wakes up in that it is full of Marine helmets? And some are in piles, almost like it is collecting them, go ahead and look around before it shows up. I found like 5-8 helmets on one pallet, all with the left top part punched out. I really think it is collecting these helmets.

--WAVE (talk) 22:32, March 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * WOW?!!??! thanks so much fo linking those alien figures, I have always been a huge fan of the red vs black alien rivalry . . . so awesome, THANK YOU! ralok (talk) 22:38, March 17, 2013 (UTC)

he sounds familiar
used to work with someone like that he had Downs syndrome i recckon him her has down syndrome he is not harmful  but he is a nuisence and he needs space outside mainstream wikis like his own. Owen1983 (talk) 00:42, March 19, 2013 (UTC)

Xenos in SS13
Xenomorphs are infact in the space-station 13 universe: http://wiki.nanotrasen.com/index.php?title=Xenos 67.193.151.73 19:44, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

I know, but Changeling is fanon, while Arcosian is implied. I even added a section on the name to show that it was not confirmed but was used because it is likely to be their canon name.

Here's the section:

Name
The species name: Arcosians is not confirmed, though the Dragonball series heavily implies that the Arcosians are Frieza's race as: Chilled wears a cloak like the Arcosians in King Kai's flashback, the Arcosians are stated to be the people who recruited the Saiyans and Frieza is later revealed to be the one who controls the Saiyans, and the name Arcosian comes from Arctic - which relates to the cold.

The species also has notable fan names, such as Changeling (due to their many forms), Ice-Jin or Icen (due to their relation to the cold), and Frost Demon.

The Predator home world.
I am sorry to say but I only specialize in the Alien lore. I know a fair amount about Predators but just from what I have seen other talk about Predators and your blog you know more than I do. By the way I am sorry to see the Cruntues is being difficult. It's hard to look at the wiki now and see what it has become. It was meant to show the whole saga, and now that he is their more anti-completest show up on the wiki, even though they have their own wikis like AlienAnthologywiki. I really wish I could make my own, or heck get mine back that was taken without notification, or have a moderator come on that is not intimidated by the Cruentues and unblock me.

Just a few things I would like to say. In regrades to the Hish and Yautja I think what you pointed out is kinda cool in that the Super Preds should be Hish. Although I was kinda wishing they would bring in a concept that they had dropped fromm the story which is that they were injecting themselves with black fluid, I think mixed with prey dna, and that is what was changing them. Seeing who it is they looked like Predaliens, and they where injecting themselves with black fluid that would change them just like the black fluid in Prometheus would change anything it touched, which I think is Royal Jelly because it does the same thing only more powerful, it would be a nice way to tie the movies together. Well I guess they could still be the Hish even if they did do the above...

When it comes to aliens and their abilities esp in the AvP movies I would like to point out that even though Anderson made it that the aliens where injected with chemicals that would make them grow faster, he didn't need to do this because in the Aliens lore it self (Aliens: Nightmare Asylum) it shown that the Aliens grow at the rate they wish. So in short he didn't need to add the chemical thing. Even Fox in the Alien Saga blu-ray set (First Alien movie disc) put that the alien has a gestation period of 1-10 hours, which is based on a first encounter observation but it is close to correct. In any case that chemical would have to be something compatible with their bio chemistry and it is most likely harvested from dead aliens, it itself is the chemical they naturally produce to that effects their growth (This is just a theory but it works) We also think that they used the elements harvested from dead aliens to make armor and weapons that are resistant to their blood they normally have. I say resistant because 98% of the time even the stuff that look ok is still burning from the acid.


 * Now I am ok with anything new shown on the Aliens side of things in these crossovers because they have the Bio-Imperative, and it allows them to evolve/adapt fast, it says fast which is scary nids are not even as fast at them, to what ever threat they face and that they have a vast database of evolutionary responses. Vast is pretty big and I am betting it expands with everything new they encounter. (Aliens: Once in a life time) (AvP:E)


 * Anything else that has a crossover that doesn't have an ability like this I do agree with you that it is not ok to just throw in new powers and stuff.

As for what needs to happen to make a good AvP movie, I would have to say they are great already, most online don't agree with me. They are what they are fighting movies. Now if you wanted to have a great story with Aliens and Predators in it don't call it AvP. That sort of mind set making a movie about something fighting something sort of makes the creative posses to focused on the fight itself. Imagine if they redid Star Wars and they made it Rebels vs Empire, it prob would still be cool but imagine how the story will now change, another example is if they redid Lord of the Rings and made it Gondor vs Orks. Have the characters and creatures have a reason for being in the same setting that has nothing to do with just them killing each other.


 * One thing I would like to point out is that the reason I think Humans have to be in their storys so much is because they are a good balanced stock to use for making aliens. Just look they avoid fighting any of the other crazy types you see unless of course they have their weapons of war but even then in AvP War if the human character had not been their the Preds would have lost, of course things work them selves out in the end because if not for the human character the Aliens wouldn't have kicked the crap out of them in the last bit of the story. Those type of Aliens are to-much for them just look what happened in when they had to deal with an Army of Predaliens in AvPWar or the White Aliens in Alien Predator D.O.T.S. Granted that was a King Alien but hell I love the Kings the most. Just imagine if they had to deal with an Alien that came from a Whale, they had some in Aliens: Colonial Marines(comic) One was bigger than any bio-titian ever, and then their is the Reaper Queen she looked like a mix between a giant Queen and Venom from marvel comics.

--WAVE (talk) 20:50, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Re:okay then
Then could you please write the page to make it unbiased. It is not my fault if I believe it. Everyone has their own beliefs and because of that right, you have no right to remove it unless I say so. I'd like for you to write it in an unbiased fashion. Cwagungood (talk) 16:27, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Re:actually
How is writing an article that is possibly real inappropriate? Cwagungood (talk) 22:12, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

Re:bias
Well, then could you please write it to make it unbiased? What's the harm in that? Cwagungood (talk) 00:22, March 26, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. Thx. Cwagungood (talk) 23:46, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I just saw that.
We need to talk to the head admin Nightmarizard. Now that we both have seen and have proof of his misconduct involving other editors ,you and one other, he has got to listen. Heck try Ultimatex and bman14 as well.


 * I got a serious question though, did someone unblock me or did you get someone to unblock me? Look at the logs he just blocked me for infinity again. He could be watching you on other wikis.--WAVE (talk) 01:13, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Editing
Okay, I've tried editing the Victor page. Tell me what you think of it, now. Cwagungood (talk) 21:21, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

More About Categories
Hi Ralok! I'm writing to ask something, since you're our resident expert on organization and categories. The efforts to organize the wiki have been extremely well-done so far, although I guess we're not finished yet. So, I'd like to ask what you intent to do with the categories related to homeworlds. Are we going to keep all those "Planet-X Inhabitants", "Planet-Y Inhabitants" or should these be deleted? There is some confusion in standard naming on these, as some seem to go like "Planet-X Inhabitants", others like "Planet-X races" or "Planet-X Wildlife" and others like "Planet-X Species". This is far from a priority, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this if you don't mind, just for future reference :) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 21:48, March 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed, I think categories for sapient races per location start being relevant at planetary system to galactic levels, and even then, only the most populated systems should have their "Races of the X-System" categories (I'm talking about Sol, Alpha Centauri, maybe Rigel, Betelgeuse, Deneb and Sirius) and then the galaxies as well. Like you say, we can use the "inhabitants" ones for planets, and also "wildlife" and "vegetation" to sort things out, and the fungus and microorganisms and unclassifiable things go to... ah... well, no need to decide everything now anyway... Of course, there's at least one planet that does have a huge number of sapient races and currently these go to "Category:Martians", so... should we keep this one? Why, perhaps delete it for consistency's sake, but I wouldn't mind either way -- BlueFrackle (talk) 22:36, March 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! It's totally confusing, yes, that's why I asked your help in first place, my organizational skills are pretty terrible, but I think we've set the important things then, thanks a lot :D -- BlueFrackle (talk) 22:58, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

hey i just found this wiki it's seems two boost up my interest in finding new life in alien worlds.

Oppa Gangnam  Style  23:35, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well it gets better.
I think he is watching what I am doing on other wikis. Did you see what he said to Nightmarizard? Looks like he is going to come after me because I talked to Nightmarizard and possible you, he is already setting it up to make it look like I am harassing you and other admins, probly lie and try to get me blocked from every wiki agian. Could you leave a message on my wall proving other wise that I am not harassing you because this is just getting uber stupid.--WAVE (talk) 08:03, April 5, 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that ever since that ridiculous Twilight series came out, people have lost the knowledge of what Vampires are and what can kill them. Oh and for the record it's not praising vampires, it's just reporting the facts because unlike other people who go for that series, I have an extensive knowledge on Vampires, Werewolves and even Zombies. Plus I'm a big movie fan so it applies.-Mr.Secord (talk) 03:12, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Alright thanks for letting me know about the Twilight thing and sorry for the inconvenience.-Mr.Secord (talk) 14:01, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

It's cool, I mean I hate Twilight, I just can't stand it to let you know. I completely understand what you're saying about bullcrap too-Mr.Secord (talk) 22:20, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Why was User talk:MuppeTickeler Blocked?
I don't see why... мет еж   19:02, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Also, RFA open. ASPF:User Rights. Please vote, or leave a comment! мет еж   19:30, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I recall now, the "jokemaster" was an account I had to previously deal with. I'll restore the block. мет еж   21:07, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Non-sapient Species
"Wildlife" and "Vegetation" are also more specific, so I like that as well. Thanks for the heads-up! мет еж   23:46, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I know that they're separate categories. Sorry, I meant that I prefer "Wildlife" and "Vegetation" to "Flora" and "Fauna". мет еж   23:51, April 28, 2013 (UTC)

In Regards to "ASW: What Makes ASW Unique"
I might be of a mind with you. If you want to propose a policy change, I'd suggest doing so here, as, if all the admins reach consensus there, it passes into policy. It would be a good way of exposing the debate, and I suggest you create a new section for it. :)  мет еж    00:26, May 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * No worries, glad I could help.  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 23:56, May 2, 2013 (UTC)

Alternative Biochemistries
Calling anything "rediculous" (or ridiculous) just because you don't personally agree with it is in my opinion a very unnecessary attitude. That said, I think this category has practical value. Some readers might be interested in creatures with alternative biochemistries, so please stop deleting that category without consulting anyone first -- BlueFrackle (talk) 21:35, May 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Look man, categories have descriptions. Just read it. I wrote a text explaining what "Alternative Forms of Life" is supposed to mean and if you actually read it you'll know that it is not a synonymous for "alien". Maybe all aliens have alternative biology (maybe not). Technically speaking each species, even on Earth, has differences in their biology. The biochemistry categories are supposed to discern between radical differences. For instance: what element are their bodies based on? Carbon-based is one thing, silicon-based is another. What liquid do they use for solvent? Water, ammonia, methane, alcohol, liquid nitrogen... Each objectively different from each other, and perfectly classifiable. Are their bodies not made of matter or do they have no liquid solvent whatsoever? In that case they are alternative forms of life. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 21:44, May 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ralok, I am doing exactly what you say. I just created Category:Species by Biochemistry and I'm in the process of creating subcategories for it (silicon-based, tellurium-based, nitrogen-based, carbon-based...), but meanwhile, there are some creatures which are radically different and hard-to-classify. Since we have a category called "Alternative Forms of Life" and it had more than 90 pages already, I thought it would be a good idea to use it for those. If you want me to use my creativity I can drop in some ideas that sound less anthropocentric (Non-Chemical Species is a good one I think). But it's hard to avoid anthropocentrism when you are editing a site called Alien Species Wiki when the word "alien" itself is anthropocentric. We are trying to classify species imagined by men, how could it possibly be non-anthropocentric? -- BlueFrackle (talk) 21:55, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Man, what are you doing? You are deleting a lot of other stuff too. Maybe you don't think the Shadows are alternative lifeforms but do you also think they are not ancient, hostile or insectoid? Why are you removing so many categories? D: -- BlueFrackle (talk) 22:01, May 9, 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright then. Sorry, I should have assumed that. Well, about the other thing, what do you say, will you tolerate Alternative Life? Do you like "Non-Chemical Species" or would you rather we try to think of something else? -- BlueFrackle (talk) 22:13, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Continuity Snarls
I could probably create a template, as multiverses tend to throw a loop for common editors, and people who don't possess a large knowledge of the universe. As for actually separating the various universes, I'd create separate section headings for the different universes. мет еж   21:40, May 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * I feel the in-universe rule can be violated for pages that so flagrantly disregard continuity. Sections should be fine for things like the AVP universe, and as long as you source or reference the appropriate universes for things like Krypton that should be fine too.  мет еж   Vergina Sun.png 22:09, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

New Gods
Just a thought: are you sure they're not unconventional life? Dudes can turn into mist, I always thought of them as a sort of semi-spiritual creatures or something -- BlueFrackle (talk) 22:50, May 13, 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, I don't know either, I'll try to do some research on them sometime to see if something shows up. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 23:15, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Easy...
Assume good faith please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers

In regards to User talk:92.8.23.218. мет еж   23:48, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Good job
Thanks! I thought Category:Browse was a mess, so I'm trying with this organization now XD -- BlueFrackle (talk) 23:30, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Question
It's not 100% official yet, but long ago I have written these ASW:Naming Conventions. Basically, if there is no canon name, we choose one based on one of the following criteria: I'd be interested in what you have to say, as there are still many cases I wish I could have found a better name for the species (awkward ex: Fyrine IV hard-shelled creature...) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 17:20, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * In-universe designation (ex. VUXG)
 * Nickname used by characters (ex: Vegetarian Aliens from Outer Space)
 * Production nicknames (ex: Shroomie)
 * Non-canon names (ex: Trakallan)
 * Homeworld-derivative (ex: Davannan)
 * Work-derivative (ex: Alien (High Plains Invaders))
 * Character-derivative (ex: Jack Jeebs' species)
 * Description (ex: Subspatial Being)

Regarding User_talk:74.129.86.150
Calling people "deluded" or implying that they are "crazy" and cannot determine fact from fiction is not acceptable behaviour from an admin. I have noticed a particular strain of inappropriate behaviour such as this by you towards new users or otherwise. Your work here is expected and welcome, but if you cannot be trusted to behave yourself when communicating with others, perhaps you should be refrained from doing so. '''Assume Good Faith. ''' мет еж    21:42, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

The point of that "nonsense" was to make an otherwise "less informative" page, more so. It gives people a more accurate scope of their physical abilities, which were, quite frankly. Vague.

Thanks for playing.

Skitzo1 (talk) 22:19, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Huh
Yeah sorry, didn't realize. My web browser's spell check broke, so I used microsoft word, I'm not the best when it comes to wiki fonts and other things. It just used the calibri font and messed it up, my bad.

On other wiki's some people are "highly" critical of any excess info you give. Some wiki admins just don't like many/any edits, in some cases and prefer "simpler" things. Although those wiki's are pretty terrible.

Skitzo1 (talk) 09:12, June 3, 2013 (UTC)