User talk:Ralok

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Alien Species! Thanks for your edit to the Bio-raptors page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Somarinoa (Talk) 04:41, April 16, 2012

Answering rhetorical question
Yes. Fauna. It is this websites' word for what most science-fiction writers would simply call "animals", which is wholly incorrect as animals evolved specifically on Earth and nowhere else (unless at one point removed from Earth). For the same reasoning, we refer to plant-analogs as "flora", as plantae is a kingdom on Earth, again, specifically. -- Somarinoa 08:14, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * No fauna is just a fancy world for animals it isnt meant to be specific to earth. There is a distinction between sapient beings and fauna though, sapient beings are the shapers of the landscape, non-sapient beings are simply figures in the landscape. Sorry symphony of science is blazing in the speakers XD ralok 08:23, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I have check the pages you marked for deletion and all of them we did not need you this has helped keep ASW clean Thank you for doing this and keep it up. --Owen1983 19:50, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am only doing my duty, to help make this place a bright beacon showcasing the grand scope of human creativity. ralok 00:35, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Nomination
You've been nominated for admin here. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 21:53, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

Re:That hurt man
As I said before, it's nothing personal. Don't lose faith anyway, it's still the decision of the community which will be decided by majority. I just don't think we need another admin. Anyway, admin powers mostly consist of deleting pages and blocking vandals. Anyone can nominate a page for deletion, but the deletion still needs to be discussed anyway, and the cases where it doesn't usually equate to vandalism. You can redo the front page as it is now without admin powers, if the ASPF agrees it should be redone (which I do) and you can request temporary admin rights to redo the theme, if you give us an idea of what you're planning to do. Neither of those things require permanent admin rights.

It's not personal, and an admin needs to be able to set aside their emotions when they come to a disagreement. I know you will understand. Insurgence:  Speak!  19:53, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

pleased
I am pleased you requested admin rights because


 * You have the wikis best interests in mind


 * You are a good spam spotter


 * Your eagerness to help out sets a good example for others this impresses me


 * Finely Adminship is something you would excel at. --Owen1983 11:22, May 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am particularly eager because this wiki literally doubles the meaning of many of the pages I make on other wikis! ralok 11:33, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Main Page changes
If you are planning to make drastic changes to the main page, I'd recommend creating a subpage of your user page like, User:Ralok/New Main Page or something. That way you have a place to work without having to disrupt the main page too much. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 18:11, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
As first officer I would like to welcomr you to the ASPF. --Owen1983 22:53, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Logo
Wait, why did you change the logo? I sorta liked it before. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 02:35, May 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * I was actually trying to go for something specific with the logo, I wanted to replicate the white text . . . and have the same starscape as the background on the wiki, I have this basic placeholder until I can find the starscape for the old logo! ralok 02:42, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

New Theme
I was wondering what you had planned for the theme there. Good choice! -- 04:49, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hey i need you help I got the wrong name for the Metarex from Sonic X can you help me now

Hey. Could you come on the chat when you get the chance? Insurgence:  Speak!  22:08, May 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Do you think you can demote yourself now? You've accomplished what you needed admin status to do. Insurgence:   Speak!  21:50, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I have never had to demote myself before, so I am not sure how to do it. . . give me a minute to figure it out. . . I am currently in the middle of res-structuring the front page ralok 21:53, May 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ok, when you're done, go to the admin dash board - user rights - type in your name - click the checked administrator box. Also, don't get rid of the sister projects thing. I sort of made a deal with the good folks over at Multiverses to keep it on. Insurgence:   Speak!  21:56, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I tried to not get rid of anything, just re-structing it. I also want to add a blog-feed but the thing is i dont know how to limit the number of blogs that appear on the front page to two ralok 22:01, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

okay done, I am no longer an administrator. ralok 22:12, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

I am realty impressed with the main page --Owen1983 16:39, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Which ones? So far I've got 2 sources, please be specific, the Paulans/Cybiota, or the brinker-roos/jellyblimps etc.?Fanaticalien45 00:24, June 13, 2012 (UTC)fanaticalien45

Okay, I think I know what you're talking about, the aliens come from a book called "National Geographic Picture Atlas of Our Universe", it's an old book with a speculative section on alien life, I have not made them up. It's little known, I found some of it's material online an various blogs.

Vandal
Don't give him much of a reaction. That will feed him a response, which is what they want. "Don't feed the trolls." The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 03:00, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

THANKS
I have investigated and block him.--Owen1983 16:41, June 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for patrolling, I've been away recently. My deepest gratitude! Insurgence:   Speak!  {ADMIN} 03:46, June 26, 2012 (UTC)

Logical error?
I would probably agree if it wasn't shown officially in-universe to be used as such (as that is the entire point of that one room), and we're here for all known information along with attempts to better understand species through (openly-stated) speculation. There would be no reason for it to be stated if it wasn't precisely referenced in-game, though it is (and I've definitely seen the room personally in Skyrim). The games used to be a bit more sexual in content before Morrowind (I don't remember too much about Arena but Daggerfall certainly was; it was the first game I ever experienced mature content in so I remember it well) and that room is presumably a throwback to the old ways of the series. I am not sure I see how that then is a logical error. Where precisely does the line get drawn on correct information? — Somarinoa 00:38, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * There was a few errors, first in teh phrasing implying common usage . . . second the fact tha any object . . . can . . . I dont want to say this . . . I will use a metaphor .. . . object A goes into slot B . . . object A can be any object that does not exceed slot Bs size . . . we dont need to state that it can be used for that . . . when there is a trillion other such object that can be used for that . . . :I . . . more practical uses of horker tusks should be listed, such as alchemical effects from morrowind . . . its average value presented in both games . . . ralok 03:09, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

I heard there is going to be a new Dragon ball z series called dragon ball hoshi. Is it real?--119.160.142.4 17:42, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would say no . . . these sort of things dont usually happen with japanese works . . . they ususalyl dont have expanded works, or new works beyond the main story . . . and if you ask me it makes Japanese science fiction really boring ralok 18:51, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

please be civil
To start I appreciate you getting you helping get rid of trash but your edit summery for Mastimee could have been better IE use of caps is shouting and you were angry actions like these start nastiness and promote bad karma which is not what I want. so pleas don't let it happen again. --Owen1983 (talk) 17:15, August 7, 2012 (UTC)

Wanna help?
Hey Ralok, thought you'd be interested in moving all the fanon info we have on the site to a new sister wikia I came up with, Extraterrestrial Fanon Wiki. Figured you probably know what a lot of it happens to be considering how often I see you editing pages like that, haha. — Somarinoa (talk) 02:12, August 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * sure, if I have time ralok (talk) 02:18, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Alien Species
Hello Ralok! First, I believe I haven't talked to you yet so I'd like to give my personal welcomes to the ASW and thank you for all the help you've been giving us. Second, there's a small question I'd like to make. I've noticed you have been removing all pages from the alien species category. I'm not particularly fond of that category myself (while it's nice to have all alien species in a single place, it is also sort of unfocused and not easy to navigate) but I'm curious: why are you doing that? If there's a fair reason, I could help you by taking care of not including it in the next pages I add. If not, it's likely that I'll do the same, just so I won't spoil your efforts; but I like to know the reasons for changes, even small ones. See you around! -- BlueFrackle (talk) 23:42, September 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a very simple reason, this is the alien species wiki . . . we dont need to state that they are alien species twice! If it is here it is an alien species, even if it is alien by only the narrowest of definitions. Besides can you name any species that . . . isnt alien to you? I bet I could squeeze every creature on earth into the definiton of being alien, by some type of logic. It just feels like a redundant un-needed category. ralok (talk) 02:42, September 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That makes a lot of sense, we're all aliens from some-being's point of view, and there is no reason to make the wiki more anthropocentric. I also apologize for the delay in answering. On a side note, I really liked your rewrite of the Grey page, good work on that! Cheers :) BlueFrackle (talk) 23:44, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I know you are helping cleaning some categories, but maybe you could leave some that clarified what type of aliens they are, other than humanoids?User:Soulslayer317


 * I am trying to keep the categories BASIC for the time being until it can be determined . . . what the categories should be named, there are about 8 categories for reptillian species, 5 for amphibians. . . there is too much dispute over what some of these categories even mean, like descendants of man . . . and near human, these two categories are basically the same, so which one gets used? ralok (talk) 18:48, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well I can see where you going, there have been some with similar names and it can be confusing I would've thought someone noticed it by now. And to note about the illustration of the Dryad,I like to pint out its not fan art but part of the illustration. User:Soulslayer317


 * this wiki is a huge mess, and it is going to take a long time to sort out . . . ralok (talk) 19:01, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re:House cleaning
I could nominate you to become a permanent admin on ASPF:User Rights if you wish. If you'd rather be just for a few weeks I believe we can skip the votes procedure, but you'll have to ask Somarinoa, he's the only one who can change user rights status -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:47, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hi ralok, i have seen aliens. Though i was in an asylum then lol. Anyways, i woundered is this wiki done by proper reseahers? You may need to look at the Sontaran page. 78.144.55.172 19:16, September 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Working on this page by page. ralok (talk) 19:21, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Re:Hypernauts in Galleries
No problem, done already! And thanks for the suggestion, I had heard about Hypernauts but never watched it. Can of Worms, I honestly have no idea what it is (which makes me glad you're adding it, heheheheh) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 18:54, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Draconizica
Please restore the Draconizica page. Keep in mind that there are aliens on this wiki that are also from lesser known books, movies and games. If it helps get it restored, you may remove the self published link. Restore the page, please. It offers as resource to fans of TSODR. The book is copyrighted and has a proper fanbase. I know it is normal for you to dismiss anything not published with a "professional" tag like Penguin, EA, Random House, Harper Collins or Square Enix, but that does not mean it's not worthy of inclusion on this wiki, and if you're going to delete the page forever, restore it so I can grab the source code.

Thedragongod (talk) 00:41, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for restoring the page. I wanted to mention that I did sell phsyical copies of the book and it was copyrighted three years ago, and that spelling error in the title is wholly intentional. I did make a wiki for it months ago, but it sees no kind of action. I'm not sure how you could help because you haven't read the book and know nothing of the characters, but if I need your help with anything about it, I will contact you.

Thedragongod (talk) 02:49, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

I'm actually the original author of the book and it was bound and printed by Lulu, not by my home printer. Sorry that you find the title immature, the ocntent surely is not. If you ever read it, leave your thoughts about it on my talk page.

Thedragongod (talk) 03:13, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

No problem ! :D

RE:Category confusion
i know that, but there 2 category for Sapient and Non-Sapient one containing the word species and the other one containing being.--Linkmadara 17:15, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Images of textures
I know you don't actually want textures from the model because they look creepy and i'm actually Yoyo by the way.--Sonic &#38; Gobo Fraggle 3 (talk) 15:43, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * So if you know we dont want them here . . . why upload them? ralok (talk) 15:59, October 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've had to show the textures that were applied to make that character.--Sonic &#38; Gobo Fraggle 3 (talk) 16:04, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

No. . . you really didnt, that is completely irrelevent to everything. ralok (talk) 16:16, October 28, 2012 (UTC)

RE: NO
Hi, well sorry about my error, me wasn't the person who created the category Races of the Triangulum Galaxy. I looked the History of the category and i found what was created by an anonymous user, if me putted the category it's because so much articles has the category, it's more than 800 and i thinked what was necessary put the cateogry, thanks for adviced me, if you wanna talk more about this theme go to the chat. On my signature i can't because i have yet to fix a problem with it, while'll put this so you know it was I who said, and if you want to confirm veil in Wiki Activity. TejonMieleroXL777.

Category
All right, so that category it's bad, i understand, i'm going to help you to chip away that category, Then Sapient Beings it's acceptable? TejonMieleroXL777

Diddy kong
I read about the vandalism on his talk page and his post on Somorinoa's talk page so I blocked him and took the liberty of banning him from chat. --Owen1983 (talk) 20:38, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

I am glad he has a wikia wide block becuse he deserves it. Owen1983 (talk) 22:14, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Re; AAAHHHH
really? sorry i thought it was for species like living fire ,ect.--Linkmadara 14:05, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Dude why did you delete my post?

BaryMiner (talk) 10:57, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to show the world of the creatures I made.And what was onit was just a Wip.I just published it to save my changes

BaryMiner (talk) 11:01, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Can you make that more clear in the guidlines?Do you know any alien forums where I can post my own stuff.

http://extraterrestrialfanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dorian (:

BaryMiner (talk) 11:36, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

sorry about the humanoid thing. Owen1983 (talk) 00:12, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Star Wars species
Thanks, I believe that will save me some time in the future. Right now I am quite annoyed at the amount of work that will be required until the category for races of the Triangulum galaxy has... well, only races of the Triangulum Galaxy in it... BlueFrackle (talk) 15:28, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, "try to help when I can" is an understatement, I'm aware that you corrected all species categories from A to G practically alone. In fact I'm surprised you haven't received the golden star award yet, I'll remind Owen to give you one :) BlueFrackle (talk) 15:43, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations
You have been awarded the Gold star for your dedication tho ASW. --Owen1983 (talk) 21:10, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

why does it bother you so much?

ill stop but can you please leave the ones ive already done up there :)

A favor
I am going to undelete the Scirpian Bird while I movr it [] then I will delete it 18:02, January 15, 2013 (UTC)Owen1983 (talk)

re:category
i agree whit the unillustrated/illustrated category. but disagree on the alien species category as this wikia cover planets,galaxies,technology and important individual characters. --Linkmadara 20:42, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Why did you removed my edits to the alien species template? it adds optional information


 * First off sign your posts with four of these ~ second, are you referring to the template itself? or to a usage of a template on a specific page? I had to make serious edits to the template page to make the template more usable. ralok (talk) 18:03, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

How do my edits make it unusable? The fields are optional...--面白い 18:28, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * and all I did was add more optional fields, and remove the useless links that treat users like they are stupid. As well I cleaned up the convoluted and useless parts of the page. ralok (talk) 18:30, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Oh... well, you had removed fields, also, I wasn't the one to put the links. Also you messed up the codes...--面白い 18:32, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * NO I DIDNT, I did not remove a single field, I added a few and renamed a few though. And the codes are fine. ralok (talk) 18:47, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

They are fine now, there were mistakes on them, making lots of fields be invisible, also, the categories "other names" and "scientific name" had disappeared, maybe because of a code mistake at your edit.--面白い 18:53, January 24, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I hope you fixed it then, because I in no way wanted to get rid of those fields. ralok (talk) 18:58, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry, templates are my specialty, it's fixed.--面白い 19:03, January 24, 2013 (UTC)

RE: sooo
Well, the Moorwen article has never been too good since I created it. I remember putting it in the main page because of the lack of good articles at that time.--面白い 18:30, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Exuse Me
I'm not trying to be so bogus around here. It's just i'm not sure if they are recycled and I've been hunting for re-used characters that are from their old show to another new one. Could you please be nice and be co-operative? I'll stop being a fake editor like their socks. Also, I'm Peggy Sue, not Diddy Kong from the Donkey Kong series.MuppeTickeler (talk) 21:34, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

hello,

I'm not sure why you deleted the entry I started on 'Fuhara' and called it 'fanonical clutter', and titled it 'take it elsewhere'.

Fuhara was listed as entry that needed to be created and I started to do so, seems pretty harmless.

thanks

Mister Silver (talk) 00:26, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

I see, perhaps it should be taken off the list of 'pages that need be created' as well.

Mister Silver (talk) 00:36, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Some of the stuff you deleted
I appreciate the end of that Terra mess, thank you. But I restored the page Sand Shifter, this one is real. Not sure if the name is real, I'll check it later, but it definitely is a hypothetical creature that appeared in Disney's Mars and Beyond, so, score one for Terra4, the guy gave us at least one legit addition... I'm thinking of bringing back some of the images as well, there is one artistic depiction of a terraformed Mars which might look good on the Mars page, I dunno. I restored one that represented an Eponan tree, we could use that, and there was some beautiful stuff by Alex Rie which I think I won't bring back because I have no idea if it has been published anywhere. And then there's this image signed by Wayne Barlowe, which I have absolute no idea what it is, please don't delete this one until we find out -- BlueFrackle (talk) 00:59, January 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Alright, you may delete them if you think it's best. But later I would like to recreate the Mars and Beyond pages with more proper care. It's an obscure animated pseudo-documentary for children featuring imaginative martian beings, so, I'm kind of fond of it. No worries, I'll do it over the weekend if I get time. As for that Barlowe drawing, I've tracked its source to this site in case you're interested. I'll think about what to do with it over the weekend as well. As for the Mars creatures and Epona tree, you may re-delete them if you want, it's probably best for the moment -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:26, January 31, 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry i'm not upset. I just need to know that if there was anything wrong with my page that you didn't like. Maybe you could give me advice on how to change it so that it satisfies you.Kepler11g (talk) 16:26, February 16, 2013 (UTC)kepler11gKepler11g (talk) 16:26, February 16, 2013 (UTC)

im sorry i'll have to find another site. nice site though.

Missing diagram
I noticed in the "Yautja: Circulatory System" page there is a diagram mentioned that is no longer present on the page. I've done a v. small search for it online and could not find it. Is there a way to track down a copy?

Defcon_IV (talk) 05:45, February 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * I left my reply on your talk page ralok (talk) 06:07, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Predator Remake
Looking great so far! Just remember that, while I agree that a complete rewrite is a good idea, not ALL of the speculation must necessarily be left out. ASW has always allowed speculation as long as reasonable and worded in a way to make clear it isn't canon. For instance, a sentence like "it is possible that the dreadlock-like structures in the Yautja head serve to help regulate temperature in their arid native environment" is acceptable, because it makes sense scientifically and would explain a trait that would be otherwise left unexplained. Something like "the Yautja are four times stronger than an average human and have six lungs" or even "it is possible that they have six or more lungs" are not very nice because, sure it IS possible, but there is no reason to suppose that (that I know of). Speculation: yes. Gratuitous speculation: eh... no. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 00:35, February 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, even if you disagree, this is the way ASW has always worked. It's one of the things that set ASW apart from other wikis that users are free to speculate (to some level). Ask Somarinoa, he's been here for longer than I and is the one who started the practice of scientific speculation on pages I believe. Of course, no policy is absolute, we can discuss about changing it if you'd like, but... well, I'm rather fond of it, I think it makes this site even more interesting :) -- BlueFrackle (talk) 01:07, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Added response
the article is very well written and very informative thanks Ralok for a job well done.Owen1983 (talk) 16:50, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

96.243.246.134
this anon has been creating problems first he has vandalized the Anunnaki then he created a useless page Snake Men I gave him a months block so he won't be around for a while but I have a feeling this wannabe troll will be back --Owen1983 (talk) 19:25, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Watch your back.
I noticed that "The Cruntues" has singled you out on the avp wiki. I know you don't know who I am but I am one of the original editors of the avp wiki. He is very bad, he allowed one person to talk about me being killed, and another person he let tell me I should kill myself. We avp fans where attacked by a chronic troll, The Cruntues protected them and interfered with a report I filed against him.

Long story short two other admins let me back on the website and without warning he re-banned me unjustly. This is a link showing references I am telling the truth, even Bert from wiki central was sympathetic with me.

Message between me and bman14

[http://dukenukem.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Bman14#I_need_your_help_on_the_AvP_wiki. ]

Message from Bert

[http://s103.beta.photobucket.com/user/bk-77-7/media/evidence_zps94904c4d.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 ]

This guy not only purposely ignored canon information, he acted like a Nazi, for me to write something I basically have to have another editor back up what I say, even with references my edits meant nothing. He also punished me for having a bad stalker, he also defended said stalker, he insulted me AND without my permission is using 98+ of my pictures.

The wiki is a mess now, no one knows as much about the alien as me and now the lore is very screwed up, hell white aliens and swimmers are incorrectly labeled noncanon.

Delete this message when you get the chance, The Creuntes is very nosey, and he even at one point said he would watch all me wiki pages and if I did somthing wrong on them it would be used against me on avp wiki. --WAVE (talk) 01:53, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Response

 * I have tried to make my own wiki, I for some reason did not get a single tool to edit it and the codes never worked. It was ether deleted without notification or the stalker got to it.  The guy could be dangrious from what I see him say...


 * 2nd I feel since I worked on their years as apposed to him being on their less than a year that he "The Cruentues" should be removed not me. There was a time where I was the only person watching over it, I should have been the one to adopt it.  The took the wiki away from Nightmare76.  I feel he has his own motives for wanting to be on that wiki.  I also find it odd that he calls himself a "wiki traditionalist" when he has not had a wiki profile for very long.  He could be double profiling.  He should not be on the wiki for the soul fact he doesn't like avp...

Anyway JFYI the stuff excepted as canon is all the movies, games, novels, and comics, technically you can say the toy Aliens are 2ndary canon because they can be just like the toy because of the bio-imperative, thats a thing that "The Cruentues" prevented me writing about. My ref for the above statement is in the Alien Saga blu-ray set special features disc, "Alien Saga", it is also in the Alien Quadriligoy set 9th disc, Jon, one of the head writers of Promethues, also said that AvP is in the lore of Aliens, and then the guys that made ACM also stated in a P.S.M. that the four mediums above are canon.

Canon in this universe works more like a fair tale, fox doesn't mind their being inconsistentces between the movies. Here is a list I made for all those inconsistency from avp wiki.

 --WAVE (talk) 22:11, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

ps just be carful the guy is a compulsive liar. Look at this I prevented him from adopting the avpwiki and throughout out the whole thing he practically lied, you'll notice he had no references to back up his false claims but I did have references to back up what I was saying.