Talk:Eloi

I believe this page should be moved to NAC (Non-Alien Creatures Wiki). If nobody disagrees here, I'll move it tomorrow. BlueFrackle (talk) 14:15, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I am in agreement to doing this, though I didn't read the book so I guess they could be aliens, though I don't believe they are. — Somarinoa (talk) 17:14, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I disagree the simplest definition of hte word "alien" I can find is "unlike one's own". Being alien isnt about being from a different planet, but more about being different from the world that we know. The Eloi are not distantly removed from humanity, but they are Alien to us . . . ralok (talk) 22:17, November 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Being, unless I'm overlooking someone somehow here, the eldest ASW member (not by chronological age necessarily but by how long I've contributed to the wikia) and knowing the pages that were originally up on the site, I can tell you that the "alien" in the title was intended by our Forerunners to refer to extraterrestrials and extradimensional beings (like the Rikti or that "alien" race from Sliders) specifically. — Somarinoa (talk) 22:40, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

I dont think it is fair to exlude the Eloi or other future and past species of human. They are alien to us, whether from an alien future or past. . . they are posssibilities unrealized. ralok (talk) 23:47, November 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * We're not really excluding them, we're just relocating them to a more appropriate place. NAC is a complement of ASW, it is our sister project and is run mostly by the same staff and with the same style. For instance, I'm an admin here as well as at NAC. - BlueFrackle (talk) 02:55, November 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it is pointless and unfair. . . and in all honesty I am kinda offended by the whole concept. ralok (talk) 03:19, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

I have seen the original movie and the remake basically the movie and the book fallow this guy who invents a time machine witnesses WW1 WW2 WW3 and eventually travels to the far future were planet earth resembles an alien planet were he encounters this race of people so they would be considered aliens to him so IMV they are aliens but in other words iy could be argued that if your not from earth you are not an alien but if people consider you an alien you are witch is the basis for the wiki so we should keep it.--Owen1983 (talk) 23:05, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps we should have a vote on what constitutes alien here, and let majority rule? I've no problem with that. What do you folks think? We definitely have several human descendants on the site at the moment—the Rikti (interdimensional), Jaffa (evolved), in some instances the Greys, and I would think Cro-Mags (that race from Sliders, though technically they're evolved from Cro-Magnon, not Humans) and maybe Man After Man species would belong here, as well; I am sure there are plenty of others I am overlooking, though (one I can think of but I'm unwilling to spoil that one). At least for things like descendants of man... For instance, Greek Centaurs or something similar probably shouldn't appear here, though aliens based on or intended to be the Centaurs of Greece certainly should. The rule could also apply to things like Demons, which have been an issue of sorts as well (aliens seen in space or specified to be an alien race—like the Doom series demons, the Warcraft series, or those found in Warhammer/Warhammer 40k—have been allowed but other demons that don't make that distinction—like those found in The Legend of Zelda or, say, the Bible—are currently supposed to be kept away from this particular wiki). — Somarinoa (talk) 01:11, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

you have made a fair point and it will make things clearer. Owen1983 (talk) 00:48, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Warcraft and warhammer have something in common though . . . they arent trying to be a fictionalized version of earth. There is a space-faring species in man after man though . . . I read the book :I . . . If the creature in its fictional contet is not meant to be from this earth, it is alien . . . for example . . . the monster under the sinnk in goosebumps, it is supposed to be from this world . . .it has no otherworldly origin, same with the bible, and greek and norse mythology . . . (for the most part). It is an alien in my opinion . . . if it is not from this planet here and now. ralok (talk) 08:29, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

I have suggested a new policy here.--Owen1983 (talk) 20:44, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I have become convinced that we should keep the Time Machine species on both wikis. They are both alien and non-alien depending on your POV and they are certainly relevant to both, IMO. Same is the case of the Silurian. I wrote the Silurian page for NAC, then thought about it and uploaded it here as well. While they're not ET, they are an important part of the Doctor Who universe. And to illustrate Ralok's view that "alien" doesn't necessarily equate "ET", the Doctor even refers to them as alien in the first arc, while at the same time acknowledging that they are native to Earth. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 15:24, November 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah they definitly should be included on both wikis, but things like the cockamouse or C.H.U.D.s should only be on the non-alien species wiki. Distant future and distant past species should be noted on both wikis. ralok (talk) 17:40, November 15, 2012 (UTC)