User talk:Insurgence

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Alien Species! Thanks for your edit to the User:Insurgence page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Somarinoa (Talk) 21:38, May 24, 2011

Really Nexus? -- 23:11, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Come on, you should really not make it so obvious. -- 23:16, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Somehow you are not Nexus12. Somehow... the similarity was not a coincidence. -- 23:40, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my bad. WE AREN'T BAD PEOPLE, I SWEAR. D: The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 23:48, May 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or maybe you are Nexus. When you come back admit you are the IP, and leave Royboy alone. Please. It will help you in the end. Please don't do stuff like this. You are a decent member of this community. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 23:55, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Listen up!
Alright, all of you, listen up! Owen, MG, RBX. Listen up! I'm here to confess. I am Nexus12. Don't ask how I am editing now, for I won't reply. All I want to say is that I am experiencing mixed emotions. Yes, Roy, now you will go run off to wikia. "Insurgence is that troll that's been stalking me!" but in actuality, when was the last time I even talked to you? Other, than of course, with this account. It seems to me that we share similar goals Roy. Well, nowadays anyway. I apologized to you before making Nexus12. I tried to turn over a new leaf! And look how it went! I was an administrator! I had friends on this wiki! As Nexus12, I didn't even go near you. But no, you couldn't allow me to enjoy my happiness. You had to ruin it for me, by reporting me to wikia. I was crushed. Aren't you always preaching forgiveness for yourself? Well you have been forgiven on wikitroid! Why can't you spare a little for me? I never came near you, yet you felt the need to take away everything I've tried so hard to earn. MG, I'm sorry for what grief I've caused you. I don't mean to bring anyone else into my feud. I know you're not a bad person at all. Whatever things I've said or done now as insurgence, I apologize for. Owen, you work so hard. Keep the torch going in my absence. I don't want this wiki to fall and I know you'll keep it going without me. I only wish I could be here for the ride. Roy, you may address the anon that attacked me in your next message (if you make one at all). I'm going to be perfectly honest with you, it wasn't me. However, after today, I do now know who it was. It was a stupid prank by a buddy of mine. A buddy you may also know. He played the role of "Moderator dude" and "Origin" and was the one that made the fake evidence for scarfire wiki. So it was all a prank to get me angry, because he thought it was quite funny. I apologize on his behalf. You may not believe that, but it's entirely true, I swear to God. And now I await what you will most definitely do, report me to Wikia. Fine. I'll answer an questions you may have while I am still unblocked, if you have any. But I beg of you, if you have any forgiveness left in you, spare me some. Thank you for reading. MG, it would be most appropriate if you notified RBX of this message. --Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 21:03, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

lets try to be civil guys
I new your nexus from the post you sent me on another wiki I can understand why you were upset at royboyX. But for this wikis sake try to be civil OK - --Owen1983 21:17, May 25, 2011 (UTC).

Confession
U don't think poorly of you but I just want people to get along ---Owen1983 21:21, May 25, 2011 (UTC).

I'm trying my best Owen, and I didn't think that I wis being uncivil. (in this confession) Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 21:24, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

If you would let me speak goddammit... (that's thrice now)

I am not forgiving you because your personality as a good editor is fake. I'd like you to explain the friend named Roy in your blog, the guy who has a fiery temper but is a great lackey (the temper is kind of supercooled), your status as a "pirate hunter" and the reporter named Dan. That is ChozoBoy, isn't it? You have been indirectly insulting me and others, and that is why I have had you banned. By affecting me, you have affected (most of the time unknowingly) everyone on Wikitroid and many others as well.

I have decided to let you edit here. Your global ban as Insurgence will be removed. However, you will be under constant watch by me. Consider me your little ankle cuff. You must have your blog deleted as well as all derogatory referrals to me and my colleagues. If you insult me directly or indirectly, or anyone, I will have VegaDark slap the unfashionable orange jumpsuit on you yet again. This is your last chance, Nex. Use it.

Oh, and as for me being forgiven, MG hasn't really forgiven me. Nor has RAN1 or Blaze of Fire. They are still not too happy with me, because they are sort of naive. -- 21:26, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nexus pretend it was an "I forgive you" as it is as close as you will get from RoyboyX right now. *shrugs* The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 21:51, May 25, 2011 (UTC)

i'll take whatever Roy is willing to spare, MG. Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 00:05, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

Admin
Thanks for your support Nexus! (can I still call you Nexus?) I've nominated myself for adminship like you suggested. Hope you'll get your admin powers back soon at this new account, by the way :-) BlueFrackle 20:53, May 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Dude, that's fast! Thanks again ;-) BlueFrackle 21:03, May 27, 2011 (UTC)

job done
I have switched the names around like you asked me-01:19, May 28, 2011 (UTC)Owen1983

Policy decisions
go for it---Owen1983 12:10, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

user 68.50.115.81
I have blocked him for adding more garbage.--Owen1983 13:11, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Recovered your keys to the city from a plasma exhaust vent
Insurgence - potential flash clone of Nexus, I have located your galactic keyring and have returned it to you. As such, I hereby re-grant you the powers and responsibilities of a member of the Alien Species Protection Force. You should once more have full protective (see: administrative) abilities, as well as a fully-functional Rollback-class time fluctuation device. Careful of those plasma exhaust vents, they can be tricky...I once lost an entire sandwich down one; man, was I embarrassed! Took a full five hours to get it back out again...people looking at me as I reached for it....oh man. ...What was I talking about again? Oh yes. Once again, good luck out there and the best of luck facing the forces of darkness. -- Somarinoa 03:05, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

IP address
You warned the wrong IP address. There were two. One contributed, and the other spammed. You chose... poorly. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 19:57, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Several things
I read on Holenbird's talk page that you are stuck in Monobook. To change it, go to Special:Preferences. If it isn't that you don't know how to change it, then what the heck? Also, to add categories in monobook, type at the bottom of the page. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 21:22, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * 'Holenbird' lol. :P I added the categories, no worries. Holbenilord 10:23, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, your name is a little too complex for my memory. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 12:09, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's fine. HL or Holben is what i'm usually called Holbenilord 14:45, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * That was total win on Werebereus's talk page. Use nowiki HTML tags to prevent something from using wiki code. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 00:43, June 14, 2011 (UTC)

how
how do you move pages

Debates
Sorry, i thought i could tell him how he was wrong... next time i'll get an admin. Holbenilord 19:09, June 15, 2011 (UTC)

Werebereus
I am pleased with the way you handled this but from reading his recent posts he is ignoring people and even sad Holbenilord was wrong when in fact he was right plus the last comment he made about you was disrespectful so in light of this I re-blocked him for a week this should be a message that he can continue with this behavior and eventuality get banned or he can behave. - --Owen1983 16:56, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sister Project & Contest
I doubt the other administrators would listen to me. I am a little known user who fixes typos every once in a while. Would you mind talking to them for me? You're an administrator; they're much more likely to listen to you.

About the contest: did you mean have it on the Alien species wiki, or Multiverses? 'Cause I don't think we have enough users on Multiverses to get things going. There, we have you, me, InfiniteCreator, and maybe some guy on Speculative Evolution wiki who expressed interest in the project.

Also, were you going to join that contest on Alien Fanon? I just want to know whether or not I completely wasted my time there. Pinguinus 03:14, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Contest
Actually, a contest on Multiverses might work. That guy from SpecWiki joined, and if we could get InfiniteCreator to judge, there would be three users competing. It would get even more interesting if each user were allowed to enter multiple creatures. Pinguinus 13:24, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

I certainly wouldn't mind a contest here, and I would problay enter, but I thought user creations weren't allowed here. Was I wrong? Pinguinus 20:38, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

I see. Do you want to host the contest, or should I? Or should we find somebody else? Pinguinus 20:43, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll be the judge. Just give me some time, and I'll get the contest up and running. Pinguinus 20:48, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

The contest has been set up now. Pinguinus 21:55, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Troop
Yes, they are actual creatures. They are from Nickelodeon's The Troop, and you can find them all on The Troop Wiki. TroopDude

Re:Multiverse
If they want to be our sister project, that's great, but I would suggest them to take some different approach than Alien Fanon Wiki; otherwise it would be sort of redundant. That's just a suggestion, though. No problems :- ) BlueFrackle 23:15, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The Multiverse Wiki could be a great project if done right, i completely support it. However, i agree with BlueFrackle- it has to cover new ground. Holbenilord 11:18, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article Poll
Hey, is there a poll going for a new featured article? 'Cause if so, I would like to vote. I hate having to see that ugly Moorwen or whatever it was every time I go to the main page. I mean, a little variety would be nice. Pinguinus 13:22, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Multivere wiki
I heard about this wiki IMV it would be a good idea because they haven't good a good user base or articles and it is a good concept so he has my permission --Owen1983 13:42, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

Contest question
I will choose the winner based on what entry I think is best. I will judge this by a number of factors, including how scientificly plausible I think the entry is. I look forward to seeing your entry! Pinguinus 19:19, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

The Contest on Multiverses
The contest on Multiverses is up and running, if you're interested. It's called the Genesis Project. Pinguinus 17:14, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Promotion
Sounds good to me. :) Holbenilord 18:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Still missing a spot?
So...you deleted my last post and you still haven't corrected it. Just to make sure you saw this the page for the hunters from halo also known as mgalekgolo still hasn't been changed back. Just thought you should know. Again stay golden everyone. :D


 * Don't worry, mysterious editor, just fixed it. Holbenilord 19:20, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sweet.Thanks. :D

Vandal
May I suggest you considering blocking this user? Jacce | Talk | Contributions 19:59, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Question
May I just ask, are you the user "Liquid Fear" on Wikitroid? -- 20:59, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

Just his sig says "Liquid Fear: Drink Up!" and links the user and talk pages in the style that you employ. Also, wtf is this new editor. -- 23:00, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

wikia new edtor
I am beginning a trail of the new editor as its in beta the wiki will be on it for 24hrs this f we have any issues we can revert back to the new look. --Owen1983 21:50, June 21, 2011 (UTC)

K-2L
I added the template BasedOn to the K-2L article because it copied from wikitroid word-for-word. I saw the template used on the Klingon article because the article copied from Memory Alpha word-for-word. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 00:23, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * According to Licensing, "When re-using Wikia content that has been released Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License, you must provide credit to the authors either by including a) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to the page or pages you are re-using, b) a hyperlink (where possible) or URL to an alternative, stable online copy which is freely accessible, which conforms with the license, and which provides credit to the authors in a manner equivalent to the credit given on this website, or c) a list of all authors. (Any list of authors may be filtered to exclude very small or irrelevant contributions.)" Which basically means link is required.


 * And tell me what the point of the template is if it isn't to be used. :P The funny thing is that it's actually better than the basic Wikipedia template that is added to most wikis by default. And use What Links here to see other pages its used on. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 02:11, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * It meant when content is directly copy-pasted.


 * Besides, your template looks ugly compared to the other one. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 05:05, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * It just bugs me that you are insisting on downgrading from an awesome template to... a not so awesome template. And this is a wiki, so you could have just added the little "This article might not be written according to Alien Species Wiki's standards." thing to the basedon template. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 17:18, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Klingon revision
Hello there Insurgence! I see you've created a revision template, which is nice, but frankly I can't understand why put it on Klingon, of all articles. You see, it's not that I disagree necessarily, but I would like to discuss what you believe could be changed, because quite frankly, it is one of our best articles im my humble opinion BlueFrackle 02:23, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see your point. Sure a 100% ASW Original is much better than a copy, so if you wish to rewrite, that's great, as long as you try to keep all the info. I do feel the need to point out that it's not a complete copy-paste situation; while the text is indeed copyed from Memory Alpha, last year I took an afternoon out to rearrange the layout, add images, fix links and change sentences from past tense (which is MA policy) to present tense. Also, using the word "plagiarism" bugs me a little, as all wikia content is free. Other wikis can also copy articles from ASW if they wish to. Perhaps I'm being to much of a "devil's advocate" here, I'll make clear that I never copy-pasted articles from anywhere here, and I don't particularly aprove of this practice either : - ) BlueFrackle 14:32, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks about the contest! I believe these links go to MA because ASW doesn't have pages for most of these subjetcs, yet. Well good look with your editing, hope it doesn't turn too difficult or boring :- ) BlueFrackle 15:56, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal
Thank you for dealing with him.--Owen1983 15:42, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Really
REALLY? I think you owe a couple people an apology. >_< The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 02:26, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well apparently somebody was unaware that Roy was permablocked. Now also, Roy letting you edit was an improvement on his part and I was slightly proud of him. Seriously you move UP. And about Piratehunter... well that is a topic you have no business hearing. Also I edit here because it was linked to on TVTropes, the awesomest wiki in the universe. I was blissfully unaware of your existence. Unaware of what happened between you and Roy long ago. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 15:31, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just stay off of wikitroid. You prove Roy right by going there. >_> The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 15:32, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * And quite frankly, Roy isn't your problem. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 15:51, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * You couldn't have gotten more mixed up if you tried. "And for the record, RoyboyX is not my friend. He is a babbling moron incapable of standardized though." Roy only thinks Piratehunter is his friend, sadly. Piratehunter was FOR Roy's block. He wanted the review to be in 6 months. He thinks Roy can't change. DP and I disagree. We believe he can change. We felt Roy needed to learn how to be a better person before he could edit Wikitroid again.


 * Just as I believed you could change. I wanted to be fair. You said you turned over a new leaf, that you wouldn't go to Wikitroid. A month later, you went to Wikitroid. You lied to everyone.


 * And for the second time, Piratehunter is a private topic which you have no business hearing. No offense. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 17:44, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * What? You think I'm for him? LOL no. "How can "lmao" possibly be mature? I am your equal. You need to treat me as your equal. You had no right to restore the article without talking to me. That is being a tyrant." I am not for Piratehunter. But he is Wikitroid's problem, not yours.


 * And by the way, Piratehunter gave me the exact same ethics is personal arguement when he was defending his little incident with Wikia. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 18:49, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

(Undent) If anybody vandalizes any wiki, they get warned, then they get blocked. I'm not the admin here, you are. Silly Insurgence. You can handle it. If you think vandals are anything above annoying, then you are really really silly. I don't hate you, but I'm pissed that you lied. You're a problem user on wikitroid. Here, not so much. As long as you stay off wikitroid, and don't get involved with it's users, I'm fine. My goal is to be FAIR. I have to be fair to you, to Roy, and even to Piratehunter. I try to keep the balance in the wikiverse, and with such extremists such as Roy and yourself, you aren't making it easy on me. Basically, don't do it again or else I'll eat you. And I have experience dealing with sockpuppets too so don't even try sneaking anything by me. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 19:25, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

your not evil
you are not evil so I am not going to crucify or block you I am aware of wikitroid and why users were negative to you you did what you had to do but the wikitroid admits turned a blind eye and your are a good administrator and IMV a very good editor. --Owen1983 19:23, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why I did what I did. The confession of a (broken?) man
Oh, it all began a long time ago. When exactly I do not remember. I stumbled across a wiki, Wikitroid to be exact, out of sheer happenstance. It soon became apparent that the wiki was dominated by a user named RoyboyX. His edits numbered high, second highest at the time I believe, and I was curious. I observed his behavior. It was... unsatisfactory to say the least. Paranoid drama causing Roy. I wondered to myself how he had not been blocked? I shrugged off the idea and looked more into the history of wikitroid. I found the C&C RfC. I began to doubt the administration of the wiki but I could find nothing wrong with it, at the time. Roy though, I could find a hundred things wrong with him. So I created a "conspiracy" to humble Roy. It involved myself using multiple accounts to break Roy. The ruse went on. His "allies" deserted him. His "enemies" frightened him. As was their purpose. Roy fell from "grace" and I managed to get him blocked. I took up many positions with my different skins. An admin of Metroid Fanon Wiki for one. The fool that I was, I thought to reveal myself too early. Hoping the shock value would drive the point home, but it never did. I fell back into the shadows then. Watched from afar. Roy got banned, but it was later shortened. He didn't change. He wouldn't change. He thought the world was against him. He thought he was in the right every single time. I stopped then, or at least I tried to. I came here as Nexus, but he found me. And he banned me outright. So I came back as the incarnation I am now. MG convinced Roy to allow me to stay. I wanted to. I really did. But my fury was too much. My fury burned too bright. And I unleashed one more effort on him. Perfento. During this period I looked back into Roy's previous edits, a long time ago. I saw what people meant when they referred to the "Old Roy". He was better then. And I asked myself, what made him change? Simple. He learned it. From his mentor, the true evil, Piratehunter. The plague that infects wikia to this day. I will show you an example of his rage.

''"Okay, I am now going to be a very tyrannical monarch at the moment... namely because, one, I am very pissed off for off-wiki reasons, and two, the constant bickering is getting old and thus adding to my pissy mood. To start off, the next goddamn time I see someone say one derogatory, offensive, insulting, or even slightly biased comment, I am blocking you for some random period of time, mirroring the punishment for vandals. I'll tell you if I see it. Secondly, ChozoBoy shut the fuck up with your college shit; no one give a damn about you being a fucking senior in college, and majoring in animation. Go to hell, in short (and no I'm not jealous of you, little boy, I'm a junior in cognitive neuroscience and a teacher of English and foreign languages, so piss off). And as a matter of fact, I do see you as a completely retarded imbecile, so kindly go die, so I can not miss you. And third, exactly what AS said, if a fucking RfC is going on about Article Names, then keep the bloody conversation(s) relevant to Article names. In fact me being the tyrannical monarch I am at this current moment I may decide to strike any comment that is empirically deemed irrelevant or otherwise redundant to the actual purpose of the RfC. Hell I may decide to abuse my power and start blocking [people for use of arrogant attitude(s). You never know, I'm just a tyrannical bitch like that at the moment. In short everyone, shut the fuck up and be "nice". In return, I won't block you, and I may stop bashing you for being retarded idiotic morons, and instead take pity on you. And just for everyone's own good, I strongly suggest that no one says something to me regarding this comment, and just take it into your minds and use it. In other words, read it, and do it. Because people saying something to me is just going to piss me off that much more. Which you will regret."''

That was his rage to a peaceful conversation. Chozoboy, his greatest enemy at the time this took place. He was also Perma-banned for |this. Look at his edits users of ASW I implore you. He is the sole seed of corruption in wikia. His tendrils have just spread and infected others is all. I am good-mannered to those who are humble and treat other's with respect. But not he. Not Piratehunter. Not he who raises a vandal army to attack wikia. As shown here:. I beg you people of ASW, review Piratehunter and Roy before passing judgement on me. Those two... I could not contain my fury. I am sorry I brought my feud here. I am sorry. Insurgence: Like the Phoenix I rise again! 19:37, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * You are a total, complete mess. I'm not going to lie. You are a total complete mess. And somehow I feel like dealing with you rather than having you blocked globally. Even if Roy and PH are wrong, that doesn't justify you. There is no need to get the rest of ASW involved because this is a Wikitroid issue. That is why I'M talking. With the exception of the vandal "army". Heh, if anybody vandalizes, then they get blocked. I always found organized vandal activity quite hillarious. Big whoop, you are vandalizing en masse. Now you can get blocked en masse. The MarioGalaxy2433g5  { talk /contribs} 20:05, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re:A message from an admin
Well i wish i could but i had to tell him i had to use this account for a reason but i'm sure i will try not to tell them about those news on that wiki.Terrific joker 03:45, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

IRC
Join the channel #wikia-avp. We need to talk. Do not say no if you want to keep editing. -- 17:43, August 25, 2011 (UTC) Never mind. -- 19:42, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

master joker
I have reviewed this situation and spoke with him concerning his behavior and I agree with the block and his nomination for RFA been annuled. --Owen1983 15:23, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

ASW: Notice Board
I got the idea from the GTA wiki and it works well the idea is people can suggest and vote for changes tho ASW can you look it over and tell me what you think ASW: Notice Board--Owen1983 18:53, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

input
Thanks pal. --Owen1983 20:13, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Warning/Question
I understand this but the alf characters look like muppets and i'm not trolling. I'm helping the wiki and plus they are muppets and they are controled by the puppetiers. Why are they not muppets?Terrific joker 22:30, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

And plus i am posting Alien species wiki related pages. All planet 51 characters can be on the wiki so please remove the issue from the concil.Terrific joker 22:36, September 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you sure you want me to remove some of the info off of the Rick page?--Terrific joker 00:41, September 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * Or never mind. I removed the quote that should not be there. I kept some remain that should be. Now it has good qoutes and is a good page right now.Terrific joker 00:44, September 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wheres your ultimatum page at?Terrific joker 00:47, September 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've listened, i have acknoledged it and i Met those points.--Terrific joker 00:57, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

joker
I have notice hwe has returned and I am convinced he is still a troll if he is blocked it should be for a longer duration this will educate him --Owen1983 16:38, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

ur welcome =) 124.186.239.239 04:52, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'll be happy to help. HolbenilordTalk₪ 19:42, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Response
Good luck Insurgence, don't worry, we'll take care of the place while you're out - BlueFrackle 21:02, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Alternate History
While I was not trying to be rude, I was angry at him (Owen) for messing our wiki. I did tell the TSPTF about it, but they don't want to hear you again.

You do not have to go to the Best Ban in that wiki to find about Owen. Just speak to the admins of this wiki here.

RandomWriterGuy 22:27, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Whoa. Speaking of alien invasions!

If I may speak for the rest of the wiki, this ordeal happened a year ago and, while he made quite a name for himself, it is behind everyone else. RWG, you weren't even active when he did those things, so please don't harangue Owen and don't raise an issue on the TSPTF about this. CrimsonAssassin 22:51, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

welcome back
thanks for dealing with the user I might press them I jnow some admins there --Owen1983 06:49, December 3, 2011 (UTC)