User talk:Skaedrellianarchiver

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Alien Species! Thanks for your edit to the Xenomorph page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Owen1983 (Talk) 20:41, June 18, 2012

Deacon
You created the page Deacon (Prometheus). The page for that already exists as Proto-Xenomorph. I know there is debate over what to call it, but if the name changes the title of the proto-xeno page will change. You duplicated an already existing page with less info on the subject. Would you delete it? (America789 01:19, July 3, 2012 (UTC))

If you check the date, the Deacon page was first.

You're the vandal
Ralok is an admin here. You should not accuse him of "vandalizing" or having a "personal agenda". I've never heard of Space Station 13 but if he removed it he must have had a good reason so you can't simply add back without at least discussing it first. Your behavior is stubborn and disrespectful and might get you blocked if you do this again. You have been warned. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 19:47, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

okay
last time I am going to say this... while it may be an official production of a company, the game itself is not verified or approved by any other sources... the usage of thosse alien species in that game... are... ENTIRELY ILLEGAL! They have no permission to use the alien species, or intellectual properties of other companies, let alone the permission to put them in the same setting. I refuse to acknowledge a bunch of assholes illegal pastiche fan-fiction. GROW UP! ralok (talk) 20:12, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

look
I am not responsible if you fail to grasp basic copyright law, extreeeeeeeemely basic copyright law. Like it or not Space Station 13's use of the aliens is not approved, and thus fan fiction. You statement "How can it be fan fiction when it is implicitly used and is a significant point throughout" is true of all fan fiction, in all of its forms... And what makes it illegal is the fact that they distribute it on their official website, and put advertisements up... they are making a profit by having created this game. They are using characters, species, and organizations... that they do not own, for their personal gain. I cant help that they are so small that they are beneath the notice of the respective copyright holders, but if I could I would try to inform 20th century fox of Space station 13's use of their intellectual property. And by the way "How can it be fan fiction when it is implicitly used and is a significant point throughout" is specifically what makes it illegal, this isn't some cameo that falls under parody, homage, and satire clauses in copyright law. Also I think you used the word Implicit wrong, since the usage of the xenomorphs in space station 13 is blunt... rather than subtly implied, you cant have something be "implicit" and "a significant point throughout". I am wondering about these original races, I got a feeling they probably arent and you simply dont know what they are from. ralok (talk) 11:50, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

what is wrong with you?
Why on gods green earth do you think that I have some personal vendetta here? We arent the ones causing a fuss, you are... I didnt even make these rules about not allowing fan fiction, you keep telling us we are "shooting the messenger" but that is ltierally what you are doing with me... And these explanations are not "hand waves" it is fan fiction that is using other peopels intellectual properties without their permission with the purpose of making a profit (see advertisements on Byonds official website). The reason they havent been taken to court is because its a little internet sprite game, no offense to what it is but 20th century fox would consider something like this beneath their notice. ralok (talk) 12:04, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

Response
I say you are the vandal (in a figurative sense, meaning "a person who intentionally and gratuitously spreads chaos") because you insist on adding information which has already been deemed counter-productive by another editor (an admin no less). Instead of bringing up the issue on the talk page and trying to discuss it, you simply add it back as if nobody would notice. Far worse than that, however, are your gratuitous accusations of "vandalism", "personal agenda" and now "vendettas" against other editors. Vandals will never become administers on this wiki; and nobody here has a "personal agenda". Our goal is to care for the site and improve it. Plus, I certainly seek no "vendetta" against anyone. I simply remove the stuff that shouldn't be on the page to begin with, such as... well, vandalism mostly!

Now, I'll acknowledge that you seem to be well-intended and you're willing to engage in proper discussion, so I'm willing to see your arguments: please try to explain to us why do you still think that Space Station 13 material should be included in a wiki which only covers extraterrestrial species and related subjects from officially published media. I simply don't get it. Including the information that the Xenomorphs appear in Space Station 13 is just very slightly above including such useful and valid info as, for example: "my neighbor has a Xenomorph tattooed on her left shoulder". You claim you added the "meaningful information" but I fail to see anything "meaningful" in your edits, just a lot of fan fiction which, as you've already been told, should not be added here (feel free to add it to our sister project Extraterrestrial Fanon Wiki if you wish).

On a last note, I'll make clear that neither I nor Ralok have any intentions of banning you (whether you consider it "shooting the messenger" or not): the act of banishment is reserved for those which truly have no goals other than disrupting the productivity and peace of the wiki. This doesn't seem to be your case: you appear to be a reasonable user who genuinely wishes to contribute, but is extremely stubborn and misguided as to what the purpose of ASW actually is. I love fan fiction, I often create it myself, as most people who enjoy any work of fiction do. But this site has an explicit policy against it and as an admin I am obligated to defend it. It's nothing personal against you, but I had to say it: the person who adds content contrary to what policy says, and then adds it back after being deleted while throwing in all sorts of gratuitous and false accusations against others; is indeed behaving like a vandal! -- BlueFrackle (talk) 18:39, September 16, 2013 (UTC)

I don't like this behavior
to calling people a nuisance is not nice and is childish second throwing accusations is mot nice keep in mind we have rules on this wiki that everyone must fallow there called civility so stop this behavior and apologize to Ralok. --Owen1983 (talk) 20:32, September 17, 2013 (UTC)